brownk wrote on 2020-11-08, 15:22:

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In search of a perfect dead silent slot1 slocket cooler, I've wanted get my hands on this baby.

The first impression was the weight. With some photos and specs, I thought it would be light enough to put on.

I'm now almost convinced that this cooler is heavy enough to eventually warp a slocket or rip its 370 socket out of place in an extensive period of usage.

...oh well 😐

Some time ago someone posted a link to a website made by some guy in Poland (afair) where he described how to use a Zalman GPU cooler (ZM80-HP or similar) to passively cool a Slot 1 CPU. However, this would probably not work on a Slotket but only on "native" Slot 1 CPUs. Unfortunately I can't find the link right now...

Edit: It was Finland, my bad. Here it is on archive.org:
https://web.archive.org/web/20040428070656/ht … kizmo/ZM80C-HP/
Some pictures are missing, but you get the idea.

vmr_ wrote on 2020-11-08, 11:54:

debs3759 wrote on 2020-10-05, 22:58:

EvieSigma wrote on 2020-10-05, 22:50:

Got these two motherboards from a website called Alltronics (can't find the thread about them, did it get deleted/moved?)

Looks like it was deleted. Glad I saved the url 😀

Hi Debs, mind sharing the URL? PM ok? Thanks

You have a PM

Aublak wrote on 2020-11-08, 06:50:

Something I forgot to post earlier.
CL GD5424-80qc vlb

You can't see it, but the pcb has a metallic green sheen on it. Its a really spectacular looking card.

PT = Pine Technology

Robin4 wrote on 2020-11-08, 16:42:

Aublak wrote on 2020-11-08, 06:50:

Something I forgot to post earlier.
CL GD5424-80qc vlb

You can't see it, but the pcb has a metallic green sheen on it. Its a really spectacular looking card.

PT = Pine Technology

That was what I thought, but the FCC ID starting J6Q is a company called Lestina International Ltd, who created 9 different VGA cards between 1992 and 1995 (they still exist, but have only 9 cards in the FCC database). Not sure if they were related to Pine, although the part number does imply that.

mpe wrote on 2020-11-08, 15:16:

Aublak wrote on 2020-11-07, 15:41:

What's the difference between these overdrive chips and regular DX2s?

The ODPR is practically identical. The ODP is meant to be installed in the overdrive socket. It has one extra pin (to avoid it being inserted incorrectly into the socket). It also has UP pin outputing low signal so that it can disable the other CPU if still present (such as when soldered on the motherboard). On standard DX2 this pin is input waiting for the signal from the overdrive CPU.

So its like a coprocessor?

I got these triplets for free. Desktop Unisys Aquanta. Thought they looked like boring officemachines, but hey, free is free 😀

They are identical but for one that has an extra NIC installed.
They are P1 233MMX machines with USB and integrated LAN.
And Labway soundcards. Yamaha YMF719E-S chipset with QDSP QS1000 internal synth. This was kind of a surprise. 😀

gex85 wrote on 2020-11-08, 15:34:

Some time ago someone posted a link to a website made by some guy in Poland (afair) where he described how to use a Zalman GPU c […]
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Some time ago someone posted a link to a website made by some guy in Poland (afair) where he described how to use a Zalman GPU cooler (ZM80-HP or similar) to passively cool a Slot 1 CPU. However, this would probably not work on a Slotket but only on "native" Slot 1 CPUs. Unfortunately I can't find the link right now...

Edit: It was Finland, my bad. Here it is on archive.org:
https://web.archive.org/web/20040428070656/ht … kizmo/ZM80C-HP/
Some pictures are missing, but you get the idea.

Wow, I really appreciate it. I've never given a second thought on ZM-80 with slot1 CPU. This really is something!

https://pc.zoznam.sk/cpu-intel-pentium-2-400- … man-om-zm80c-hp
I found a page with some of the missing photos.

Thanks!

brownk wrote on 2020-11-08, 15:22:

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In search of a perfect dead silent slot1 slocket cooler, I've wanted get my hands on this baby.

The first impression was the weight. With some photos and specs, I thought it would be light enough to put on.

I'm now almost convinced that this cooler is heavy enough to eventually warp a slocket or rip its 370 socket out of place in an extensive period of usage.

...oh well 😐

We used one of those back in the day for a Socket A system. Not the best performer but it was quiet.

If you want a really good performer that is super quiet, then you will want to get a heatpipe based cooler and modify it to fit. I have a stock one from a S939 Opteron that I modified for Slot A. Barely clears the RAM slots but the fan is quiet and the cooler doesn't even get warm to the touch. And it is pretty light to boot.

brownk wrote on 2020-11-08, 23:26:

Wow, I really appreciate it. I've never given a second thought on ZM-80 with slot1 CPU. This really is something! […]
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Wow, I really appreciate it. I've never given a second thought on ZM-80 with slot1 CPU. This really is something!

https://pc.zoznam.sk/cpu-intel-pentium-2-400- … man-om-zm80c-hp
I found a page with some of the missing photos.

Thanks!

Ah, good to see the other pictures are not lost!
This is getting slightly off-topic, but I think it might even be possible to use this method with a Slotket that has holes in the PCB (like the ASUS S370-DL) and a simple, custom-made retention plate from, let's say, 5mm aluminium. You would only need to make a big enough plate, add one cutout that fits the cooling plate of the Zalman and four threads to match the holes in the PCB. Then you could carefully (!) attach the cooling plate to the CPU and proceed with assembling the cooler. However you would still need to come up with a solution for the "backplate" part of the Zalman cooler, probably a second, thinner retention plate that would use the same four holes and hold the Zalman backplate in place so the heatpipes and actual cooler can be mounted to it. If you are absolutely aiming for a passively cooled Slotket solution, it might be worth the effort.

Vegge wrote on 2020-11-08, 19:09:

And Labway soundcards. Yamaha YMF719E-S chipset with QDSP QS1000 internal synth. This was kind of a surprise.

Those are nice cards! Not the best GM option around but I think that chipset sounds pretty good, particularly for rock-y sound tracks like DOOM 👍

Nice Labway cards, still have no ISA card with onboard wavetable.. Kind of the only thing I really lack in my collection at the moment..

cyclone3d wrote on 2020-11-09, 04:47:

We used one of those back in the day for a Socket A system. Not the best performer but it was quiet.

If you want a really good performer that is super quiet, then you will want to get a heatpipe based cooler and modify it to fit. I have a stock one from a S939 Opteron that I modified for Slot A. Barely clears the RAM slots but the fan is quiet and the cooler doesn't even get warm to the touch. And it is pretty light to boot.

I really appreciate your input!
I'll look into heatpipe-based coolers. I think there are some options in aftermarket passive GPU coolers I can still buy.

gex85 wrote on 2020-11-09, 08:26:

Ah, good to see the other pictures are not lost!
This is getting slightly off-topic, but I think it might even be possible to use this method with a Slotket that has holes in the PCB (like the ASUS S370-DL) and a simple, custom-made retention plate from, let's say, 5mm aluminium. You would only need to make a big enough plate, add one cutout that fits the cooling plate of the Zalman and four threads to match the holes in the PCB. Then you could carefully (!) attach the cooling plate to the CPU and proceed with assembling the cooler. However you would still need to come up with a solution for the "backplate" part of the Zalman cooler, probably a second, thinner retention plate that would use the same four holes and hold the Zalman backplate in place so the heatpipes and actual cooler can be mounted to it. If you are absolutely aiming for a passively cooled Slotket solution, it might be worth the effort.

Spot on.
Actually, the most crucial issue with passive slocket cooling, IMHO, is how to mount a cooler with rigidity in structure and space margin for extensive period of use under heat.
It is b/c a slocket + cooler assembly would certainly goes through frequent expansion and contraction, and none of the solutions I've come across addresses my concerns until you post the link!
Absolutely godsend! Thanks!

Some parts that I bought or came in mail in the last 3 days...

Part 2

Part 3...
Not really things I collect... Guy wanted to sell this stuff on pics (and a bunch of not interesting AM2, Socket 478 and such) motherboards along with the Voodoo 1 I wanted. He said all parts work fine. Guess what... all but the Voodoo 😒
I havn't paid much but still I'm a bit upset.
Diamond Monster 3D is detected by PnP BIOS, in Windows it's detected, drivers do install (no 3dfx tab in the display properties though), also DOS utils from Glide SDK detect it. But when it switches to 3D - the screen is black and no signal to the monitor. I tested it in the same machine my other 3dfx is installed... damn 😒

...and pics of the more interesting cards from the pics above for you AGP afficionados...

HanJammer wrote on 2020-11-10, 00:43:

This nice Commodore PC20-III... Late revision motherboard, HDD doesn't really work (well it works a bit but it's almost dead)

make sure to get rid of that Varta ASAP!
it is sneakily hiding under that drive tray.

imi wrote on 2020-11-10, 01:08:

HanJammer wrote on 2020-11-10, 00:43:

This nice Commodore PC20-III... Late revision motherboard, HDD doesn't really work (well it works a bit but it's almost dead)

make sure to get rid of that Varta ASAP!
it is sneakily hiding under that drive tray.

It's GP in this machine so no leaks, also I'm pretty aware of these things, it's my fifth or something like this PC10/20-III and I have a couple more Commodore PC machines (different models) 😉

Juz some strategy guides. What I like to collect after cool hardware and big box games.

I bought the Gravis Ultrasound PnP Pro in the original box with drivers and manuals.