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Reply 15400 of 55583, by elod

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brostenen wrote:
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Also as part of the bundle got this 1993 Cirrus Logic 5428 1mb VLB Graphics card. Have absolutely nothing to use this in 🤣

Cool.... VLB's are nice stuff. Those mem chips are giant ones. Exactly like those on my CL isa card.

Nice find indeed. I've not yet managed to pull together a working VLB system. As someone said on the forum, they are not valuable pretty hard to find these days.

The intel chip seems to be just an interface between PCIe and regular PCI.

Reply 15401 of 55583, by Jade Falcon

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2 32mb 72 pin sims, a none mmx ceramic 166mhz Pentium, a diamond pro16 sound card.

Going to max out my CDW5001

Reply 15402 of 55583, by PcBytes

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Batyra wrote:

Today I've recieved strange board... SS7 but without AGP and with 6 ISA slots (one shared with PCI)...
According to manual it can take CPU's from non MMX Pentium 90 up to AMD K6-III 550...

From the looks of the chipset,it's a MVP3 board. Would explain why it's SS7. 😀

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Reply 15403 of 55583, by Batyra

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PcBytes wrote:
Batyra wrote:

Today I've recieved strange board... SS7 but without AGP and with 6 ISA slots (one shared with PCI)...
According to manual it can take CPU's from non MMX Pentium 90 up to AMD K6-III 550...

From the looks of the chipset,it's a MVP3 board. Would explain why it's SS7. 😀

Yes, I've read a little about it since I wrote that post. I found specification and manual for this revision.
It's DFI G7VP2 industrial board. So is's quite 'normal' Super Socket 7 board on VIA Apollo 598MVP and 512KB cache.
It is able to run processors from Pentium 90 (without MMX) up to AMD K6-III 550.
Multipliers range is from 1,5x up to 5,5x and voltage form 2.0V to 3.5V.
According to specification elements use for this boad are better quality due to it's industrial purposes.

It would be perfect for my multi-soundcards build 😁

Reply 15404 of 55583, by Sev80

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just picked up a 486sx-16. The slowest 486 ever made.

Reply 15405 of 55583, by Tetrium

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Sev80 wrote:

just picked up a 486sx-16. The slowest 486 ever made.

Cheers! But not many boards will be able to run it at stock speed 😁

And please do give us some pics! 😁

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Reply 15406 of 55583, by Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman

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Sev80 wrote:

just picked up a 486sx-16. The slowest 486 ever made.

486 with 16 MHz of speed? I didn't know such thing existed.

Never thought this thread would be that long, but now, for something different.....
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Reply 15407 of 55583, by melbar

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Have got this card (mainly for pentium systems):

S3 ViRGE (86C325) - with 4Mb edo ram onboard.

Hope it will work fine.... have seen that the card is slightly bended, it's not straight anymore...

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Reply 15408 of 55583, by meljor

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Bought another 7800gs 256mb agp and Leadtek fx5900 (vanilla) agp. Tested them and all other hardware i got recently.

Everything works except for one v3 3000 agp, no post, tried 5 systems. It's dead.

The rest works perfectly fine so happy days.

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Reply 15409 of 55583, by Carlos S. M.

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meljor wrote:

Bought another 7800gs 256mb agp and Leadtek fx5900 (vanilla) agp. Tested them and all other hardware i got recently.

Everything works except for one v3 3000 agp, no post, tried 5 systems. It's dead.

The rest works perfectly fine so happy days.

It should've taken some time testing +60 cards xD

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Reply 15410 of 55583, by meljor

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Carlos S. M. wrote:
meljor wrote:

Bought another 7800gs 256mb agp and Leadtek fx5900 (vanilla) agp. Tested them and all other hardware i got recently.

Everything works except for one v3 3000 agp, no post, tried 5 systems. It's dead.

The rest works perfectly fine so happy days.

It should've taken some time testing +60 cards xD

😁 you're right. I've only quickly tested the ones i will keep around, just checked if they would post without graphical issues. I have like 40 cards that i have no interest in, so i didn't test them.
Also a lot of the ones that i do keep will just be used to do a line up between s3 cards and later an Ati line up. Would be fun to benchmark.

The real test will come later when i have time, but usually when it posts fine it will run without issues... i hope that is true this time also.

Also did a simple starup test with the motherboards. The batch of 12 plus the last 2 will take a long time to really know if everything is ok/stable.
Must first decide what to keep.

Can't keep em all.

asus tx97-e, 233mmx, voodoo1, s3 virge ,sb16
asus p5a, k6-3+ @ 550mhz, voodoo2 12mb sli, gf2 gts, awe32
asus p3b-f, p3-700, voodoo3 3500TV agp, awe64
asus tusl2-c, p3-S 1,4ghz, voodoo5 5500, live!
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Reply 15411 of 55583, by Sev80

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Tetrium wrote:
Sev80 wrote:

just picked up a 486sx-16. The slowest 486 ever made.

Cheers! But not many boards will be able to run it at stock speed 😁

And please do give us some pics! 😁

really? How come??

It's still in transit to me, i shall definitely post pics when it is here!

Reply 15412 of 55583, by Tetrium

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Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote:
Sev80 wrote:

just picked up a 486sx-16. The slowest 486 ever made.

486 with 16 MHz of speed? I didn't know such thing existed.

It does. I got this one from some OEM machine many eons ago (was a lucky dumpsterdive find)

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Reply 15413 of 55583, by clueless1

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I ordered a Xeon X3230 today for $26 shipped. Unofficially supported in my Intel D946GZIS according to a couple of sources, so I took a chance. Apparently the absolute fastest CPU that this board will take? It's the same speed as the CPU currently in there, but double the cores and caches. I'm not counting on miracles, but it might help a little in CPU bottlenecked scenarios. And for $26, not a huge loss if it doesn't.

Got this CPU installed today and it works perfectly. When dealing with Intel motherboards, with zero overclocking options, it's always a risk trying a CPU that is not specifically called out as compatible. But I saw a couple of online reports of it working, so I took the gamble. Quad core is a decent upgrade over dual core with identical 2.67Ghz speeds:
Doom3 1280x1024 Ultra details and 8x AA goes from 115fps to 128fps.
3dmark06 1280x1024 no AA goes from 12726 to 14800
3dmark06 1280x1024 8x AA goes from 11927 to 13774
OS is XP Pro.
GPU is GTX 750Ti.
About 15% performance boost on average.

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Reply 15414 of 55583, by dogchainx

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Bought today at the thrift store:

-$1.00 133MHz 5x86 PNY ClipChip, perfect pins
-$1.00 x8 software titles that are on 3.5" and 5.25" disks (i love to archive stuff)

And...I found an Altec Lansing ACS500 system...but its missing the right tower. UGH!!! All for $5.00, but I didn't get it. Only the sub and the other tower, and I already have the sub. That's on my last "need to have" is that massive speaker system. I'll go back in a week to see if someone drops off the other tower. So close.....

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Reply 15415 of 55583, by jheronimus

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Got this Lucky Star 5MVP3 motherboard with an AMD K6-2 400 CPU for about 16 bucks with some other hardware:

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This is my first Super Socket 7 motherboard so I'm pretty excited about it: these mobos are not cheap or easy to find. Still, Lucky Star is definitely no Gigabyte or Asus — just a brand Russian OEMs really liked back in the 90s. It should support CPUs ranging from 2.0 to 3.5v and multipliers no larger than 5x. However, some websites cite jumper settings for 5.5x and 6x. I want to test this board before I order an AMD K6-3+ 450 from Ebay.

This board also came with this ATI Rage Pro with a memory addon:

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However, for the Super Socket 7 build I actually have an AGP Voodoo 3-3000 — as far as I understand, the ideal candidate for this chipset's troubled AGP implementation.

Naturally, my goal with an SS7 build is to be able to use setmul and have some flexibility, but also I kinda want to see what a K6-3+ can do. My first proper PC was a P2-233 so I never really used a K6 machine. According to Phil, even a K6-2 400 on a 66 FSB is actually not far from a Pentium II 233 in games. What would the nearest Intel equivalent for a K6-3+ 450 be?

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Reply 15416 of 55583, by Matth79

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My Core2 "build" project got a kick in the backside...
Missed: a rather nice Asus G41 motherboard with DDR3 support, 1333 by OC

Got: A complete G43 Intel board, bundled with 4GB DDR2 and a C2D E8400 - pretty much the lineup I was considering, an ended up costing about the same as the board and CPU separately and I keep my set of fast DDR3-1600 that may end up in something else, will probably spin it up using the onboard graphics, unless I can chain allocate a suitable card from something else...
GT730 kicked from #1 machine, replaced by GTX750Ti, HD6350 that I need to bodge a full size slotplate onto, and the HD5670 that #1 originally had.

Not sure what the C2D will be, but it's a knockabout build as I never had a C2D - case / PSU and IDE DVDRW rescued from scrap, with S478 P4 which seems to have a non-functional CMOS battery holder - tried replacing battery and still wouldn't hold settings.

Reply 15417 of 55583, by meljor

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clueless1 wrote:
Got this CPU installed today and it works perfectly. When dealing with Intel motherboards, with zero overclocking options, it's […]
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clueless1 wrote:

I ordered a Xeon X3230 today for $26 shipped. Unofficially supported in my Intel D946GZIS according to a couple of sources, so I took a chance. Apparently the absolute fastest CPU that this board will take? It's the same speed as the CPU currently in there, but double the cores and caches. I'm not counting on miracles, but it might help a little in CPU bottlenecked scenarios. And for $26, not a huge loss if it doesn't.

Got this CPU installed today and it works perfectly. When dealing with Intel motherboards, with zero overclocking options, it's always a risk trying a CPU that is not specifically called out as compatible. But I saw a couple of online reports of it working, so I took the gamble. Quad core is a decent upgrade over dual core with identical 2.67Ghz speeds:
Doom3 1280x1024 Ultra details and 8x AA goes from 115fps to 128fps.
3dmark06 1280x1024 no AA goes from 12726 to 14800
3dmark06 1280x1024 8x AA goes from 11927 to 13774
OS is XP Pro.
GPU is GTX 750Ti.
About 15% performance boost on average.

In games that support quads, when going to a quadcore i found that the minimum fps was the biggest difference and made the expierence much smoother.

asus tx97-e, 233mmx, voodoo1, s3 virge ,sb16
asus p5a, k6-3+ @ 550mhz, voodoo2 12mb sli, gf2 gts, awe32
asus p3b-f, p3-700, voodoo3 3500TV agp, awe64
asus tusl2-c, p3-S 1,4ghz, voodoo5 5500, live!
asus a7n8x DL, barton cpu, 6800ultra, Voodoo3 pci, audigy1

Reply 15418 of 55583, by meljor

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jheronimus wrote:
Got this Lucky Star 5MVP3 motherboard with an AMD K6-2 400 CPU for about 16 bucks with some other hardware: […]
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Got this Lucky Star 5MVP3 motherboard with an AMD K6-2 400 CPU for about 16 bucks with some other hardware:

This is my first Super Socket 7 motherboard so I'm pretty excited about it: these mobos are not cheap or easy to find. Still, Lucky Star is definitely no Gigabyte or Asus — just a brand Russian OEMs really liked back in the 90s. It should support CPUs ranging from 2.0 to 3.5v and multipliers no larger than 5x. However, some websites cite jumper settings for 5.5x and 6x. I want to test this board before I order an AMD K6-3+ 450 from Ebay.

However, for the Super Socket 7 build I actually have an AGP Voodoo 3-3000 — as far as I understand, the ideal candidate for this chipset's troubled AGP implementation.

Naturally, my goal with an SS7 build is to be able to use setmul and have some flexibility, but also I kinda want to see what a K6-3+ can do. My first proper PC was a P2-233 so I never really used a K6 machine. According to Phil, even a K6-2 400 on a 66 FSB is actually not far from a Pentium II 233 in games. What would the nearest Intel equivalent for a K6-3+ 450 be?

5,5x multi is an undocumented setting on some boards and can often be found and used. The 6x multi you get by selecting the 2x multi. The amd will ''see'' this as 6x internally.
On this page there is a bios for that board with support for the mobile k6+ cpu's: http://web.inter.nl.net/hcc/J.Steunebrink/k6plus.htm

IMPORTANT: make sure the board has the right (switching) voltage regulator that can handle the v3 3000 agp. Some boards have that problem and it can damage the card or the board or just be unstable/not post, these have a linear voltage regulator. If the regulator is too weak you can use up to regular TNT2,voodoo banshee or maybe v3 2000.
No tnt2 ultra, Highend Geforce or v3 3000, or stick to pci cards.

asus tx97-e, 233mmx, voodoo1, s3 virge ,sb16
asus p5a, k6-3+ @ 550mhz, voodoo2 12mb sli, gf2 gts, awe32
asus p3b-f, p3-700, voodoo3 3500TV agp, awe64
asus tusl2-c, p3-S 1,4ghz, voodoo5 5500, live!
asus a7n8x DL, barton cpu, 6800ultra, Voodoo3 pci, audigy1

Reply 15419 of 55583, by Batyra

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About hour ago package arrived 😀

It supposed to be Synergy ViperMax... but it happened to be Gravis Ultrasound Extreme - I'm even more happy.
Card came together wit GUS MAX 1.8 with manual and floppy disks adn Media Expert MED3201 (green one) PnP clone.
My version in the early besed on Am78C201KC.

Filnaly my gus collction is complete 😁 now is time for clones, missing revisions, daughterboards and... boxes...