Trashbytes wrote on 2024-10-16, 10:26:

devius wrote on 2024-10-16, 09:39:

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-10-16, 02:50:

This was the last one I needed for the AIW AGP collection. Feels good! 😊

Where's the Rage 128 Pro version? 😅

or the Fury MAXX one ...very rare too, so rare one might never see one.

Cool stuff.

I have an "accidental" AIW collection that goes, Rage Pro AIW, Rage 128 AIW, Radeon AIW, Radeon 8500 AIW, Radeon 9600 AIW x2, one with box, one NIB. Then kinda related an EGA wonder and a VGA wonder.

devius wrote on 2024-10-16, 09:39:

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-10-16, 02:50:

This was the last one I needed for the AIW AGP collection. Feels good! 😊

Where's the Rage 128 Pro version? 😅

No more room on the wall 😁!
Actually its because I don't have a Rage Fury Maxx, and from my heart the 128 Series outside of the MAXX gets no love. It always felt like an icky workstation graphics card to me, that was kinda like the worst integrated graphics, but I was pretty young back then so that's just my old lasting impression. I do actually have a PCI version I believe(Wrong Interface).

Is there away to tell the difference between the Rage 128 Pro and Rage 128 Pro Ultra AIW? or is it actually the same model.

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-10-16, 07:07:

Thats awesome! I am not into AIW a lot but I think for Ati they were their best products. Especially the early ones were game ga […]
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AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-10-16, 02:50:

Finally got a working Radeon 9800 PRO AIW. After about 3 or 4 having memory issues when tested... :( But that's all in the past […]
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Finally got a working Radeon 9800 PRO AIW. After about 3 or 4 having memory issues when tested... 🙁 But that's all in the past now, Whoot!

This was the last one I needed for the AIW AGP collection. Feels good! 😊

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I wanted to have each AIW card, with it's corresponding best non AIW card, for each gen.

Thats awesome! I am not into AIW a lot but I think for Ati they were their best products. Especially the early ones were game game changing. You need a red led strip! And a green one if you have a similar shelf for Nvidias! 😁

And congrats for the 9800!

Coincidentally, I've made photos too. Here's my most recent purchases. From left to right, top to bottom.

- Inno3D Geforce 2 Ti-Ultra with custom heatsink taken from another card... unfortunately that turned out noisy too.
- Gigabyte GTX 295 Dual PCB - Working
- XFX GTX 7800 - Working
- Creative Geforce 2 Mx with Daughter board and DVI - Working
- X1950XT Sapphire - Working
- 9600 Pro Palit - Working
- Leadtek GTX 295 Single PCB - Unsure. The heatsink seems incorrectly installed
- Asus 3870x2 - Unsure, but probably dead. A screw holding the backplate is missing.
- FX5700 POW - Working
- Ti4200 Creative - Working
- Sapphire 3850 AGP - Working
- Powercolor 2900XT 1gb - Not working 🙁
- Sapphire X850 XT - Working
- 2900XTX fan.
- MSI? GF4 MX 440 - Working
- Sapphire 4850x2 - Working

Very nice!! Now you just need that 2900XTX! 😁. Also if that X1950XT was AGP I would be wicked jealous, I have been trying to get one of those for ages.

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-10-16, 11:07:

marxveix wrote on 2024-10-16, 10:36:

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-10-16, 10:26:

or the Fury MAXX one ...very rare too, so rare one might never see one.

MAXX is not AIW, it is just AWesome.

🤣, I was messing around, and yes its Awesome I have one myself and itll be the one card I keep even if I sell everything else.

I haven't found one at a price I'd like to pay, except 1 action that i won, but the seller never shipped it 🙁 🙁

ECS K7VMM+ - in box - looks almost new?

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-10-16, 15:04:

Very nice!! Now you just need that 2900XTX! 😁. Also if that X1950XT was AGP I would be wicked jealous, I have been trying to get one of those for ages.

I wonder what's more rare, the AGP versions of these cards, or the crossfire version 😁 I think they are a myth. 😜

Just gambled on one of these. Sold as a Ti 200, I think it's actually a Ti 500.
Wish me luck because it wasn't cheap despite being sold as Ti200....

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-10-16, 19:00:

Just gambled on one of these. Sold as a Ti 200, I think it's actually a Ti 500.
Wish me luck because it wasn't cheap despite being sold as Ti200....

Good Gamble, that's a Ti 500.

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-10-16, 15:50:

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-10-16, 15:04:

Very nice!! Now you just need that 2900XTX! 😁. Also if that X1950XT was AGP I would be wicked jealous, I have been trying to get one of those for ages.

I wonder what's more rare, the AGP versions of these cards, or the crossfire version 😁 I think they are a myth. 😜

X1950 XTX in AGP exists .. can confirm its indeed rare.

Xfire edition doesn't as Xfire and SLI dont work via AGP.

The Xfire version in PCIe also exists, you wont see them often though and if you do they usually come as a pair.

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-10-16, 15:05:

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-10-16, 11:07:

marxveix wrote on 2024-10-16, 10:36:

MAXX is not AIW, it is just AWesome.

🤣, I was messing around, and yes its Awesome I have one myself and itll be the one card I keep even if I sell everything else.

I haven't found one at a price I'd like to pay, except 1 action that i won, but the seller never shipped it 🙁 🙁

I'm willing to admit the MAXX was expensive, IIRC about 600 AUD (~350 - 400 USD) but it was fully tested and working by the seller, they even gave me a list of motherboards they knew it worked in with no issues, also got the original box and contents.

Wow 400$! In my head I am still saving stuff from a lonely dusty garage drawer death or a landfill. I did buy some expensive cards but 400$ is a lot of moners!

By the way, I've had a conversation not long ago with someone about this. Long story short he was of the idea that "it's ok to spend a lot of money on collectible retro computers because their value can only go up" which I don't necessarily agree with. For example my generation has never interacted with stuff as the Voodoo cards, so I am missing that nostalgia towards 3dfx that seems to drive a lot of us retro folks, and I probably would never buy one unless very very very cheap. I believe at some point retro computers become too old to be attractive to younger peeps. Especially with how things are now, with people that are like "I have all my money invested in Nvidia so I regularly leave bad opinions about AMD and Intel on reddit" which is apparently something people does and it's mind boggling.

MSI MS-6156 (BX7) motherboard. I like this model because it is in the Micro ATX format and supports Coppermine processors.

There are people who were infants when 486 systems were being sold and they still buy one for retro gaming.

Generally anything high end gaming of its day will probably keep getting more expensive as time goes by because of demand and working supply. 3DFX will always command a premium because of GLIDE games.

I didn't know ATI Furry MAXX were $400 these days, I didn't bother with one when they were 1/10 that because they kinda sucked new.

ATi Fury MAX? I prefer the $5 Radeon 9200.

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-10-17, 06:15:

Wow 400$! In my head I am still saving stuff from a lonely dusty garage drawer death or a landfill. I did buy some expensive cards but 400$ is a lot of moners!

By the way, I've had a conversation not long ago with someone about this. Long story short he was of the idea that "it's ok to spend a lot of money on collectible retro computers because their value can only go up" which I don't necessarily agree with. For example my generation has never interacted with stuff as the Voodoo cards, so I am missing that nostalgia towards 3dfx that seems to drive a lot of us retro folks, and I probably would never buy one unless very very very cheap. I believe at some point retro computers become too old to be attractive to younger peeps. Especially with how things are now, with people that are like "I have all my money invested in Nvidia so I regularly leave bad opinions about AMD and Intel on reddit" which is apparently something people does and it's mind boggling.

was it worth it .. to me yes, Always wanted a MAXX even back in the day but could never afford one even though its not a great performer by any standards but when it does work its able to hold its own against a Voodoo 5 5500 in a lot of games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJfoyato1Ac

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4be8HYOGrl4 <--- Benchmark battle, with the V5 winning some and the MAXX winning others, the MAXX has far better scaling across two chips and the V5 has better single chip scores.

I own both of them and neither is what I would call amazing and both are outmatched by the nVidia Geforce 256 and Geforce 2, but their coolness factor is unmatched both being SLI cards and the MAXX being the first to get that SLI ball rolling. I will say that the MAXX is let down by ATIs famous terrible drivers which didn't really get fixed even by the last of the drivers released, 3DFX by comparison has far better drivers and it shows in Opengl games.

As for value . .well neither is getting any younger and both are collector cards, I would say there are more working Voodoo5 cards than there are Fury MAXX cards so the working ones fetch a premium. I dont expect to sell either of them so their perceived value to the market doesn't interest me a lot.

With all that said neither of these cards are the ones you buy to play games on, they are display pieces and if you want to play games the Geforce 2 is far better and cheaper.

Unknown_K wrote on 2024-10-17, 06:51:

There are people who were infants when 486 systems were being sold and they still buy one for retro gaming.

Generally anything high end gaming of its day will probably keep getting more expensive as time goes by because of demand and working supply. 3DFX will always command a premium because of GLIDE games.

I didn't know ATI Furry MAXX were $400 these days, I didn't bother with one when they were 1/10 that because they kinda sucked new.

They are higher now, they are rather rare and even more so in working condition, many of the ones you see on Evilbay are "not working or for parts" for a reason.

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-10-16, 22:36:

I'm willing to admit the MAXX was expensive, IIRC about 600 AUD (~350 - 400 USD) but it was fully tested and working by the seller, they even gave me a list of motherboards they knew it worked in with no issues, also got the original box and contents.

That was a good purchase, totally worth it. A boxed Voodoo 5 is around $1000 now. Retro parts will always go up in value. I’m 44 now and only just discovered this retro scene. Someone will only discover this retro stuff in 20 years from now (making them 60+) so there will always be an influx of people coming into this hobby. I’m collecting all this stuff now so I got plenty to play with in my retirement 😉 I don’t want to be paying $4000 for a Voodoo 5 in 20 years.

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-10-16, 19:00:

Just gambled on one of these. Sold as a Ti 200, I think it's actually a Ti 500.
Wish me luck because it wasn't cheap despite being sold as Ti200....

What a great gamble. I have this exact card except a transistor appears to be missing causing the fan not to work. When you get this card, I would be very grateful if you could tell me if you have the fan transistor on yours Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti500 - Fan not spinning

zuldan wrote on 2024-10-17, 09:29:

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-10-16, 19:00:

Just gambled on one of these. Sold as a Ti 200, I think it's actually a Ti 500.
Wish me luck because it wasn't cheap despite being sold as Ti200....

What a great gamble. I have this exact card except a transistor appears to be missing causing the fan not to work. When you get this card, I would be very grateful if you could tell me if you have the fan transistor on yours Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti500 - Fan not spinning

Sure! I'll take a large hq photo of the card!

Retro case: Arctic Cooling Silentium T Pro

Cooling solution is different than most of the cases out there.
This Arctic Cooling case best to use with longer GPU (graphics)?