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Reply 580 of 653, by Bondi

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I think this card hasn't been mentioned in this thread - Quickshot PCMCIA Game Port card

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Reply 581 of 653, by auron

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interesting to see it say compatible up to 200mhz right on the sticker. that's the first time i've seen an "expiry date" given on hardware, so to speak. imagine if a voodoo1 said on the box that it may not work correctly once you've upgraded your computer in a couple years?

Reply 582 of 653, by Sphere478

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Quick pcmcia sound card question, I have an audigy 2 zs pcmcia. But it’s missing the cable. Any idea if there are compatible cables that could be used or where to find an original?

This seemed like a good place to find an expert on the subject. Hope the thread doesn’t mind 😀

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Reply 583 of 653, by MAZter

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Another gameport card:

JC Designs GameCard PRO

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Reply 584 of 653, by Bondi

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Sphere478 wrote on 2024-07-09, 21:08:

Quick pcmcia sound card question, I have an audigy 2 zs pcmcia. But it’s missing the cable. Any idea if there are compatible cables that could be used or where to find an original?

This seemed like a good place to find an expert on the subject. Hope the thread doesn’t mind 😀

Here is one for sale https://www.ebay.com/itm/285763790210?itmmeta … ABk9SR9rF6teTZA

Although you still can use your card without the cable for stereo in/out and optical output.

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Reply 585 of 653, by Sphere478

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Bondi wrote on 2024-07-10, 16:35:
Sphere478 wrote on 2024-07-09, 21:08:

Quick pcmcia sound card question, I have an audigy 2 zs pcmcia. But it’s missing the cable. Any idea if there are compatible cables that could be used or where to find an original?

This seemed like a good place to find an expert on the subject. Hope the thread doesn’t mind 😀

Here is one for sale https://www.ebay.com/itm/285763790210?itmmeta … ABk9SR9rF6teTZA

Although you still can use your card without the cable for stereo in/out and optical output.

Holy crap.

“Buy” *click*

You rock! Thanks!

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Reply 586 of 653, by Xses

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Where to hell do you guys find those things? It feels like the only way would be to go to Computer Reset, but I am on the other side of the planet.

Reply 587 of 653, by Kahenraz

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PCMCIA sound cards have always been rare, even over 10 years ago. They were niche when they came out and most probably got thrown out.

I've had a WAVjammer for years and still have yet to get a matching dongle. I have another mystery IBM sound card without a dongle.

Reply 588 of 653, by Sphere478

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So I had an idea,

Do you guys think this would work.

Can I install that audigy 2 zs card on an all ISA 386-486 system with a 16-bit ISA card adapter?

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Reply 589 of 653, by lolo799

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Xses wrote on 2024-07-15, 12:15:

Where to hell do you guys find those things? It feels like the only way would be to go to Computer Reset, but I am on the other side of the planet.

The ones I listed in the first post have all been found on Yahoo auctions, exept maybe the IBM 3d card.
I had a quick look right now and couldn't find any for sale.

Sphere478 wrote on 2024-07-15, 15:16:

So I had an idea,

Do you guys think this would work.

Can I install that audigy 2 zs card on an all ISA 386-486 system with a 16-bit ISA card adapter?

It's a 32bit Cardbus card, it won't work.
And it has no drivers support below Windows XP anyway...

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Reply 590 of 653, by Sphere478

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lolo799 wrote on 2024-07-15, 15:51:
The ones I listed in the first post have all been found on Yahoo auctions, exept maybe the IBM 3d card. I had a quick look righ […]
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Xses wrote on 2024-07-15, 12:15:

Where to hell do you guys find those things? It feels like the only way would be to go to Computer Reset, but I am on the other side of the planet.

The ones I listed in the first post have all been found on Yahoo auctions, exept maybe the IBM 3d card.
I had a quick look right now and couldn't find any for sale.

Sphere478 wrote on 2024-07-15, 15:16:

So I had an idea,

Do you guys think this would work.

Can I install that audigy 2 zs card on an all ISA 386-486 system with a 16-bit ISA card adapter?

It's a 32bit Cardbus card, it won't work.
And it has no drivers support below Windows XP anyway...

Didn’t realize that there were different card busses back then, so there were 16 and 32? Could you plug them into one another? Would a 16 work in a 32? But not the other way around?

I thought pcmcia was just IDE in a slot? Is that not right?

Oh, so the pcmcia 2zs needs a different driver than the pci 2zs? Gotcha.

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Reply 591 of 653, by lolo799

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Sphere478 wrote on 2024-07-15, 15:16:

Didn’t realize that there were different card busses back then, so there were 16 and 32? Could you plug them into one another? Would a 16 work in a 32? But not the other way around?

I thought pcmcia was just IDE in a slot? Is that not right?

Oh, so the pcmcia 2zs needs a different driver than the pci 2zs? Gotcha.

16bit and 32bit, based on the ISA and PCI bus.
16bit cards will work in a Cardbus slots, 32bit cards won't fit in a 16bit slot.

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Then comes ExpressCard, there are adapters for ExpressCard cards to Cardbus for adventurous people.

There are some 16bit/32bit cards with a little dipswitch on them to change the mode, I know a few scsi and ide/pata cards that have this.

Yeah, the Notebook ZS card has different drivers than the PCI ones.

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Reply 592 of 653, by MAZter

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I compared the Roland SCP-55 and Casio GZ-50M playing Wolfmidi set, in my opinion the Roland sounds a bit muffled, although perhaps these midis just don't suit it. Compare by yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcPEYrezJmM

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Reply 593 of 653, by Sphere478

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lolo799 wrote on 2024-07-15, 16:19:
16bit and 32bit, based on the ISA and PCI bus. 16bit cards will work in a Cardbus slots, 32bit cards won't fit in a 16bit slot. […]
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Sphere478 wrote on 2024-07-15, 15:16:

Didn’t realize that there were different card busses back then, so there were 16 and 32? Could you plug them into one another? Would a 16 work in a 32? But not the other way around?

I thought pcmcia was just IDE in a slot? Is that not right?

Oh, so the pcmcia 2zs needs a different driver than the pci 2zs? Gotcha.

16bit and 32bit, based on the ISA and PCI bus.
16bit cards will work in a Cardbus slots, 32bit cards won't fit in a 16bit slot.

The attachment PCCard_CardBus.jpg is no longer available

Then comes ExpressCard, there are adapters for ExpressCard cards to Cardbus for adventurous people.

There are some 16bit/32bit cards with a little dipswitch on them to change the mode, I know a few scsi and ide/pata cards that have this.

Yeah, the Notebook ZS card has different drivers than the PCI ones.

Thanks! 😀

I got that cable btw!! Thanks again! Bondi

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Reply 594 of 653, by Bondi

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Sphere478 wrote on 2024-08-05, 04:18:
lolo799 wrote on 2024-07-15, 16:19:
16bit and 32bit, based on the ISA and PCI bus. 16bit cards will work in a Cardbus slots, 32bit cards won't fit in a 16bit slot. […]
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Sphere478 wrote on 2024-07-15, 15:16:

Didn’t realize that there were different card busses back then, so there were 16 and 32? Could you plug them into one another? Would a 16 work in a 32? But not the other way around?

I thought pcmcia was just IDE in a slot? Is that not right?

Oh, so the pcmcia 2zs needs a different driver than the pci 2zs? Gotcha.

16bit and 32bit, based on the ISA and PCI bus.
16bit cards will work in a Cardbus slots, 32bit cards won't fit in a 16bit slot.

The attachment PCCard_CardBus.jpg is no longer available

Then comes ExpressCard, there are adapters for ExpressCard cards to Cardbus for adventurous people.

There are some 16bit/32bit cards with a little dipswitch on them to change the mode, I know a few scsi and ide/pata cards that have this.

Yeah, the Notebook ZS card has different drivers than the PCI ones.

Thanks! 😀

I got that cable btw!! Thanks again! Bondi

Cool, I'm glad you got it. Wonder what you use it for. EAX games?

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Reply 595 of 653, by Bondi

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MAZter wrote on 2024-08-05, 00:10:

I compared the Roland SCP-55 and Casio GZ-50M playing Wolfmidi set, in my opinion the Roland sounds a bit muffled, although perhaps these midis just don't suit it. Compare by yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcPEYrezJmM

BTW, does your SCP-55 work in the actual modded game Wolfmidi? AFAIR I couldn't get it working there.

And the Casio GZ-50M has a PCMCIA version too, which is Casio WP-150 card (part of SZ-150W set). A very rare one, never seen any for sale.

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Reply 597 of 653, by MAZter

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Bondi wrote on 2024-08-05, 08:28:

BTW, does your SCP-55 work in the actual modded game Wolfmidi? AFAIR I couldn't get it working there.

No, sorry, I think problem with SCP-55 sitting at 370 port, instead of 330.

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Reply 598 of 653, by MAZter

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In 2001 MIDI Performance test was conducted. The Roland SCP-55 was the best performer by a slight margin. These results show that jitter and latency performance of newer (USB-based) interfaces is actually two to three times worse than older MIDI interface technologies

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Reply 599 of 653, by Bondi

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MAZter wrote on 2024-08-06, 00:29:
Bondi wrote on 2024-08-05, 08:28:

BTW, does your SCP-55 work in the actual modded game Wolfmidi? AFAIR I couldn't get it working there.

No, sorry, I think problem with SCP-55 sitting at 370 port, instead of 330.

It can be set up to sit on 330 actually. But still doesn't work in Wolfmidi

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