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ASUS PC-DL DELUZE to ASUS NCCH-DL

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First post, by ApostolCV

Posted on 2024-12-26, 20:18

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Hello to everyone who love retro hardware.
I'm a happy owner of ASUS PC-DL DELUXE.
I discovered that there is an “improved” model of this board called ASUS NCCH-DL which support Xeon (Nocona).
Both of them were built at famous 82875 (Canterwood) chipset but "South bridges " are different.

Of course question about success modification lower version to bring it ability to start 90nm Xeon.

Reply 1 of 10, by ElectroSoldier

Posted on 2024-12-27, 13:48

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I had a PCH-DL myself, it was a good system but No you cant.

Its not an "improved" model, its a different motherboard.

Reply 2 of 10, by nhattu1986

Posted on 2024-12-27, 14:23

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I think there was a bios mod for the PC-DL to support the nocona Xeon, but i unable to located the bios.

Reply 3 of 10, by ElectroSoldier

Posted on 2024-12-27, 14:24

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nhattu1986 wrote on 2024-12-27, 14:23:

I think there was a bios mod for the PC-DL to support the nocona Xeon, but i unable to located the bios.

Would it work for the PCH-DL?

There was nothing official to allow it.

Reply 4 of 10, by luckybob

Posted on 2024-12-27, 15:21

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off the top of my head, PC-DL was for the 533 FSB xeons, and the NCCH-DL was the one for the 800's.

I have the ncch-dl when it was new (ish). And it was a FAST board. Those 3.8 chips FLEW.

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 5 of 10, by ElectroSoldier

Posted on 2024-12-27, 18:53

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luckybob wrote on 2024-12-27, 15:21:

off the top of my head, PC-DL was for the 533 FSB xeons, and the NCCH-DL was the one for the 800's.

I have the ncch-dl when it was new (ish). And it was a FAST board. Those 3.8 chips FLEW.

Yeah I would agree with that. I had some Prestonia core Xeons in my PCH-DL and it was one hell of a system. At the same time I had a MSI K7D Master with some MP 2800+ CPUs and they were amazing systems.
It wasnt until I went with a dual Clovertown system that I had a system that honestly beat either of them.

Reply 6 of 10, by ApostolCV

Posted on 2024-12-28, 09:32

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Unfortunately I only found one broken link to unlock hidden features. No mention of Xeon Nocona support

Reply 7 of 10, by ElectroSoldier

Posted on 2024-12-28, 13:41

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So there is no BIOS update that can make the board support an 800MHz FSB?

Reply 8 of 10, by luckybob

Posted on 2024-12-28, 18:01

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its a chipset limitation, as I recall

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 9 of 10, by ApostolCV

Posted on 2024-12-28, 18:16

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luckybob wrote on 2024-12-28, 18:01:

its a chipset limitation, as I recall

I'm not sure about it.
As i mentioned before both motherboards use same chipset - Canterwood, so limitations should be at hardware level.

Reply 10 of 10, by luckybob

Posted on 2024-12-28, 18:26

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ApostolCV wrote on 2024-12-28, 18:16:

luckybob wrote on 2024-12-28, 18:01:

its a chipset limitation, as I recall

I'm not sure about it.
As i mentioned before both motherboards use same chipset - Canterwood, so limitations should be at hardware level.

yea, i looked it up, and you're right, but my memory is still telling me its a chipset limit.

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

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