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Reply 28860 of 29178, by Kahenraz

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I don't think that FDM 3D printed brackets are mechanically strong or heat resistant enough for use on a CPU. Maybe an SLA resin print but not FDM.

Reply 28861 of 29178, by CMB75

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Kahenraz wrote on 2024-12-04, 07:53:

I don't think that FDM 3D printed brackets are mechanically strong or heat resistant enough for use on a CPU. Maybe an SLA resin print but not FDM.

Na, I use mainly ABS-like resin ... that wouldn't fly - a little strain and it'll break. Maybe using fiber injected filaments would do the job? idk

Reply 28862 of 29178, by BloodyCactus

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For the DOSember stream event this year (we have over 260 particpants which is amazing), I made an intro and a diskmag if anyone is interested (dosbox/dos required obviously!)

dosember 2024 disk magazine
https://bloodycactus.com/files/dmag24.zip

dosember 2024 intro
https://bloodycactus.com/files/dosem24.zip

(and if you want last years dosember 2023 intro)
https://bloodycactus.com/files/dosem23.zip

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Reply 28863 of 29178, by Kahenraz

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BloodyCactus wrote on 2024-12-04, 13:26:

For the DOSember stream event this year (we have over 260 particpants which is amazing), I made an intro and a diskmag if anyone is interested (dosbox/dos required obviously!)

Is there a video of the intro on YouTube to watch for ease of accessibility?

Reply 28864 of 29178, by BloodyCactus

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Kahenraz wrote on 2024-12-04, 17:28:
BloodyCactus wrote on 2024-12-04, 13:26:

For the DOSember stream event this year (we have over 260 particpants which is amazing), I made an intro and a diskmag if anyone is interested (dosbox/dos required obviously!)

Is there a video of the intro on YouTube to watch for ease of accessibility?

you can watch my twitch stream to see the intro and the diskmag (I had to run get bread out of the oven so ran the intro 🤣)
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2317701644??t=00h18m38s

(im on mobile but i think the twitch link should work)

the stream doesnt do it justice (there is two different songs and 3 different logos than will be randomly selected).

the intro is really just designed to get everyones name printed so its just a fancy text writer.

the dosember 2023 intro is on youtube;
https://youtu.be/LlpFetuzWas

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Reply 28865 of 29178, by Major Jackyl

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H3nrik V! wrote on 2024-12-04, 07:51:
Major Jackyl wrote on 2024-12-04, 01:08:
I finished my GPU cooler mod today. […]
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I finished my GPU cooler mod today.

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I can't remember the original, as I've had an Intel cooler on here for a while, but it was a savage job, since I did it when I was 16-ish. I decided to stay simple, which was good, as I nailed it in the first try. Used long CD screws and nuts and a few mica washers to hold the brackets on. The fan clicked into place on top, once clocked properly.

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I'm in the middle of gaming on it right now and it's fricking frosty, man! "Playing" Quake4 (1024x768-High) only yielding 20-25FPS, but slow frames means hot card, usually, right? Nope. Hitting the chill zone. Just what I was looking for. Unfortunately the 3.2 P4 I installed in here was kaput, so back on the 2.8.

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That's a totally - well - cool mod! But is the heatsink held in place by the fan, which is mounted with 2 3D-printed "click-on" brackets? Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen? Or is there something I don't see and understand?

You know, I was fearful of the thing breaking off or heating up/melting. BUT, I ran a few tests with a TEC and heated the thing with the fan off to probably OVER where I would expect to run (70-80°C) and it didn't sag or anything on the testboard I mounted the TEC to, to simulate mounting. They're ABS now, so I'm not worried about meltage. The original set didn't break the whole time I was experimenting (and they were PLA+), so they're pretty strong. I get a good view of the contact patch and it's WAY better than I had it all those years. The heatsink weighs significantly less, to0 at 14.1oz. The full Aluminum one was 13.8, so not much difference. The one I took off was 20oz and was a PROBLEM and NEVER got used. Pretty happy with how it's working. I thought this card was dead years ago and have been hoarding it, since it was the first video card I ever bought (new).

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Reply 28866 of 29178, by dominusprog

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Recapped another sound card 😁. I'll install this on my 486 build.

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Reply 28867 of 29178, by Ujeen

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dominusprog wrote on 2024-12-05, 17:42:

Recapped another sound card 😁. I'll install this on my 486 build.

are those red caps called "Würst" ? Just seing them a lot in DigiKeys and trying to understand if those are ok or not (I suspect they are not really from Germany despite their datasheet statements)

Reply 28868 of 29178, by dominusprog

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Ujeen wrote on 2024-12-05, 18:05:
dominusprog wrote on 2024-12-05, 17:42:

Recapped another sound card 😁. I'll install this on my 486 build.

are those red caps called "Würst" ? Just seing them a lot in DigiKeys and trying to understand if those are ok or not (I suspect they are not really from Germany despite their datasheet statements)

Well, this is the first time I heard the name Würst. These are ELNA Silmic II Purple Robe series, which are excellent choice for sound cards.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/22558002796693 … 7Cquery_from%3A

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Reply 28869 of 29178, by Ujeen

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dominusprog wrote on 2024-12-05, 18:39:

Well, this is the first time I heard the name Würst. These are ELNA Silmic II Purple Robe series, which are excellent choice for sound cards.

ah got it , these are even from ali express and I suppose you're quite happy with these and I probably should not be afraid of caps from aliexpress either ... 🤔

Reply 28870 of 29178, by BitWrangler

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Major Jackyl wrote on 2024-12-04, 23:27:
H3nrik V! wrote on 2024-12-04, 07:51:
Major Jackyl wrote on 2024-12-04, 01:08:
I finished my GPU cooler mod today. […]
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I finished my GPU cooler mod today.

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I can't remember the original, as I've had an Intel cooler on here for a while, but it was a savage job, since I did it when I was 16-ish. I decided to stay simple, which was good, as I nailed it in the first try. Used long CD screws and nuts and a few mica washers to hold the brackets on. The fan clicked into place on top, once clocked properly.

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I'm in the middle of gaming on it right now and it's fricking frosty, man! "Playing" Quake4 (1024x768-High) only yielding 20-25FPS, but slow frames means hot card, usually, right? Nope. Hitting the chill zone. Just what I was looking for. Unfortunately the 3.2 P4 I installed in here was kaput, so back on the 2.8.

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That's a totally - well - cool mod! But is the heatsink held in place by the fan, which is mounted with 2 3D-printed "click-on" brackets? Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen? Or is there something I don't see and understand?

You know, I was fearful of the thing breaking off or heating up/melting. BUT, I ran a few tests with a TEC and heated the thing with the fan off to probably OVER where I would expect to run (70-80°C) and it didn't sag or anything on the testboard I mounted the TEC to, to simulate mounting. They're ABS now, so I'm not worried about meltage. The original set didn't break the whole time I was experimenting (and they were PLA+), so they're pretty strong. I get a good view of the contact patch and it's WAY better than I had it all those years. The heatsink weighs significantly less, to0 at 14.1oz. The full Aluminum one was 13.8, so not much difference. The one I took off was 20oz and was a PROBLEM and NEVER got used. Pretty happy with how it's working. I thought this card was dead years ago and have been hoarding it, since it was the first video card I ever bought (new).

Yah ppl like that about a cardboard fan duct I made back in the day "OMG it's gonna catch FIRE" dude if fire happens to that, it's already freaking broke and on fire, not as a consequence of using cardboard, shit don't get THAT hot.

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Reply 28871 of 29178, by PD2JK

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Ujeen wrote on 2024-12-05, 18:05:
dominusprog wrote on 2024-12-05, 17:42:

Recapped another sound card 😁. I'll install this on my 486 build.

are those red caps called "Würst" ? Just seing them a lot in DigiKeys and trying to understand if those are ok or not (I suspect they are not really from Germany despite their datasheet statements)

I think you mean Würth, that's a respectable company from Germany. They have all kinds of components, tools and what not. I think I had a red Würth cap when I was a kid, got it for free at some agricultural venue / fair.

They have caps though, not sure if they have their own plant, but they look cool on my BP6. 😁

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Reply 28872 of 29178, by Ujeen

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PD2JK wrote on 2024-12-05, 19:56:

I think you mean Würth, that's a respectable company from Germany. They have all kinds of components, tools and what not. I think I had a red Würth cap when I was a kid, got it for free at some agricultural venue / fair.
They have caps though, not sure if they have their own plant, but they look cool on my BP6. 😁

gosh , my phone changed that 😀))) sorry sorry , I've just realized
yup Würth ... gut 😀

Reply 28873 of 29178, by kinetix

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A few days ago I found a somewhat strange monitor. It's a Digital PCXBV-SA, it's dated October 1995. But the cable (which I couldn't find) is detachable and the connector is 9 pins. Is it EGA? I doubt it's CGA because of the date. But in any case it would be a very, very late EGA ?!?!?. Unless the cable is an adapter or something like that.
Looking for some reference and I found that it seems to be a rebranded SAMSUNG CSQ4327, VGA
It powers up but doesn't show raster on the screen. I already gave it a good cleaning, there was a broken capacitor that corroded a part of the board, which I cleaned.

EDIT: Well, the input is three pins for RGB (go to a LM1203N chip) and two that seem to be sync (those 2 and the Green go to a SL506A chip), the other 4 go to GND. The SAMSUNG CSQ4327 data i found says it have sync-on-green.
EDIT: Nah, not EGA at all, it's VGA, I think just making a suitable cable will do the trick... if it works, or else I will need to spend some time bring him back to life

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Reply 28874 of 29178, by dominusprog

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Ujeen wrote on 2024-12-05, 19:00:
dominusprog wrote on 2024-12-05, 18:39:

Well, this is the first time I heard the name Würst. These are ELNA Silmic II Purple Robe series, which are excellent choice for sound cards.

ah got it , these are even from ali express and I suppose you're quite happy with these and I probably should not be afraid of caps from aliexpress either ... 🤔

No, I didn't buy them from AliExpress, but they must the same caps.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_tr … MIC+II&_sacat=0

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Reply 28875 of 29178, by Ozzuneoj

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kinetix wrote on 2024-12-05, 20:14:
A few days ago I found a somewhat strange monitor. It's a Digital PCXBV-SA, it's dated October 1995. But the cable (which I coul […]
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A few days ago I found a somewhat strange monitor. It's a Digital PCXBV-SA, it's dated October 1995. But the cable (which I couldn't find) is detachable and the connector is 9 pins. Is it EGA? I doubt it's CGA because of the date. But in any case it would be a very, very late EGA ?!?!?. Unless the cable is an adapter or something like that.
Look for some reference and I found that it seems to be a refurbished SAMSUNG CSQ4327. It says it's 1024x768 max. among what the schematics may be.
It powers up but doesn't show raster on the screen. I already gave it a good cleaning, there was a broken capacitor that corroded a part of the board, which I cleaned. Later I will check that entry, what could it be.

EDIT: Well, the input is three pins for RGB (go to a LM1203N) and two that seem to be sync (those 2 and the Green go to a SL506A), the rest 4 go to GND. The SAMSUNG CSQ4327 data i found says it have sync-on-green.
EDIT: Nah, not EGA at all, it's VGA, I think just making a suitable cable will do the trick.

It is unusual for one to be made so late, but some of the earliest VGA monitors also only used 9-pin connectors.

It's possible that since it is a "Digital" brand, it may have been used for a workstation that used an older or non-standard 9-pin VGA connector.

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 28876 of 29178, by H3nrik V!

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Watched The Matrix with my 17 y.o. daughter. She has a very great taste in movies. A few weekends ago it was Fight Club. I've raised that kid well 😎

If it's dual it's kind of cool ... 😎

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Reply 28877 of 29178, by Nexxen

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H3nrik V! wrote on 2024-12-07, 22:08:

Watched The Matrix with my 17 y.o. daughter. She has a very great taste in movies. A few weekends ago it was Fight Club. I've raised that kid well 😎

Does she dig war movies as well?
Would be awesome to watch Predator too 😀

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Reply 28878 of 29178, by H3nrik V!

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Nexxen wrote on 2024-12-07, 22:40:
H3nrik V! wrote on 2024-12-07, 22:08:

Watched The Matrix with my 17 y.o. daughter. She has a very great taste in movies. A few weekends ago it was Fight Club. I've raised that kid well 😎

Does she dig war movies as well?
Would be awesome to watch Predator too 😀

Afraid I didn't raise her that well 🤣

If it's dual it's kind of cool ... 😎

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Reply 28879 of 29178, by StriderTR

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Going through a ton of stuff I picked up today from my local CL listing looking for "free old PC hardware".

So far, this is mostly from one box, various AGP/PCIe video cards, PCI sound cards, PCI raid and capture cards with all their attachments and cables. Was a PCI slot tester in there, can always use those.

A "seems to be working" HP Omnibook 900. Haven't done much testing on it, other than boot to BIOS, but if it works good it will make a good Win95/98 machine.

Got a lot more to go through yet, then the testing begins. Enough to keep me busy for a while. 😜

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