RaVeN-05 wrote on 2020-12-18, 09:29:

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S3Quake3.exe runable on any card

doesn't work on s3 savage4

You used old version, re-download attachment and try again

RaVeN-05 wrote on 2020-12-29, 17:33:

You used old version, re-download attachment and try again

Works!!!

S3Quake3.exe +map q3dm17

Can't run special levels
dmmq3dm1.zip
dmmq3dm2.zip
dmmq3dm3.zip
dmmq3dm4.zip
dmmq3dm5.zip
dmmq3dm6.zip
dmmq3dm7.zip

S3Quake3.exe +map dmmq3dm1

dmmq3dm*.zip
This maps is designed for dmmq3.exe which is LOST, s3quake3.exe not compatible with them.

But you can run converted maps in any Quake 3 version (retail version)
a test versions like this s3quake3.exe is pre-release, and their map formats different, different bsp structures, its not trivial to convert them i think.

I can only offer a new fixed version that allow you to load maps from quake 3 test versions 1.07 and 1.08

So maps q3test1, q3test2, q3tourney can be added to this build

It requires to manually select, edit files, i mean remove TGA files that names has the same names as DDS files, because this build prefer TGA over DDS

so simply copying pak0.pk3 from non s3 buid overrides all hi-res textures.

another interesting this is, textures can be converted to TGA and used in any Quake III Version as hi-res textures.

Might be possible to use dmmq3 textures in any Quake III Arena Version as hi-res textures, by simply rename "my converted version" to zdmmq3.pk3.

By adding "z" at start of file name , overrides all pak*.pk3 files loaded before.

So there is a lot of interesting experiements here

Textures from s3 q3 for any quake3 version beta!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ysoj2CsOC8eI … iew?usp=sharing

The older Savage4 chips have native win3x/9x upwards drivers...great!
currently searching for a savage4 PCI card.

Properly Converted textures from s3quake3.exe version to any Quake III Arena version, hi-res textures for q3dm17 and q3ctf5 maps
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Gi5p__XJrdhM … iew?usp=sharing

dmmq3dm maps also properly converted (previously shaders fails)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tsBJbzpYKHcV … iew?usp=sharing

for s3quake3nocardmaps

additional maps (q3test1,q3test2,q3tourney)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TvYGwmk55NoF … iew?usp=sharing

I can't figure out how to try my original unreal with S3TC Textures on my Savage4. Regardless what I do I get corrupted textures.
My machine is a Win95b P2-333 32MB S540 AGP Card. I am using the Win95 DX6 drivers.

Guys, I’ve got laptop with S3 Savage/IX w/MV. What can you tell me about this card? I was quite surprised to see HW acceleration on it. Games I’ve tried that run without visual artefacts:

Quake II, Thief DP, Thief II, Blood 2.

But, for some reason, Deus Ex and Unreal look and work like trash. In Deus I even tried it’s native api.

Any advise?

Btw, what does w/MV mean?

w/MV means it has macrovision, I don't remember what this is for but it has no effect on performance. Unreal engine games should look better in OpenGL mode

Deus Ex in ogl was bad 🙁

Since I finally got my hands on a Savage4, I've decided to play around with it for a bit. I'm using Unreal Tournament '99 GOTY with S3 Metal rendering and compressed textures installed from the second CD.

In the screenshot below, I'm directly comparing the S3 Metal rendering of the Savage4 to the Direct3D rendering of a GeForce4 Ti4200. Note that the screenshot doesn't correctly capture the gamma values used by the game in S3 Metal mode. This is why the Savage4 screenshot looks so dark. In the actual game, it's much brighter.

Still, the level of detail on that floor texture is pretty awesome. The framerate using the S3 Metal renderer is pretty good too. However, I am a bit disappointed that so few hi-res textures are used on the stock maps. From what I've seen, it's only a few floors and walls here and there

Yes it's great, but the R7000 can do those too and it's a lot faster 😀

dr.zeissler wrote on 2022-02-21, 16:17:

Yes it's great, but the R7000 can do those too and it's a lot faster 😀

I'm not 100% sure about this, but I think the stock UT release (including the latest official patch) only supports compressed textures on Savage cards.

Of course, nowadays you can get fan made patches which improve OpenGL and Direct3D renderers significantly and offer the same compressed texture functionality. But back in the day, I think it was S3 or nothing. Also, note that there's a difference between "Compressed Textures" and "Detailed Textures". The latter can be enabled on any card, but it's not the same thing.

Not 100% sure, but R7000 worked for me OOTB where R9000 not. https://www.flickr.com/photos/94839221@N05/al … 157702928362631

But you are right, I am searching for years to get more games working with S3tc or high-res-texturres on older gfx-cards.

Note that the compressed textures also lack detail texture rendering on top so there's less stuff to eat fillrate with (and UT's D3D renderers give *more* detail layers than even Glide so it's not parity either)

I am back on that PII/333 ...it had a G200 and I retested G450 AGP but it did not boot, so I went back and took out some S3 Savage cards... some don't boot either, but my Diamond A200 8MB did work, so I went for it. Now I am checking the drivers...
https://web.archive.org/web/20090423064513/ht … re_archive.aspx

What Linux has builtin S3 Savage4 support, to bad the explenation never talks about in what kernel or what distribution it's supported/included.
https://linux.die.net/man/4/savage

My test-build looks like this:

D981 PII/333
AGP - Diamond A200 8MB
PCI - PowerVR PCX1 (I also have a PCX2 as Option)
PCI - 3dfx Voodoo1 4MB

I recognized that the performance is mostly OK but in games like Unreal there is a strange stuttering
and some wierd artefacts for far away objekts (white flickering) also texture-flickering in games
like HOTD2. Perhaps a driver issue?

Now I will check for Win3x/OS2/Amithlon and Linux compatibility. (2D) Image quality and 3D Textures
look very good on that card, it can run Unreal in 800x600 32Bit...how is this even possible with hires
textures? Great card!