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GeForce 2 MX400 No Video

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First post, by Gabbo

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Hi folks,

I recently picked up a ready-to-go P3 1000mhz build with a rather lacking (Rage II) GPU. So first thing I aimed was to upgrade this. I picked up a cheap GeForce 2 MX400 32mb but when installing it I get zero video, i.e. not even as far as BIOS.

I have managed a couple of times to get it to boot, after resetting CMOS once and another time after I tried cleaning contacts and the AGP port. But on both instances (on the first I was able to install the drivers), shutting down leads me back to the same problem: zero image, will not boot. If I remove the card I can still use the onboard graphics to boot up.

I've tried just about everything I can think to diagnose - the things I mentioned already and updating the BIOS & Chipset drivers, but still nadda. Before I concede on this and get another GPU I wanted to make sure my system would actually even support such an upgrade, I noticed on The Retro Web that it mentions a max of 4mb VRAM but I wasn't sure if this meant the onboard graphics.

Any advice would be great, thanks!

Reply 1 of 9, by sydres

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Did the rage ii work correctly? Is the addin card set to primary display adapter in bios? If you boot into the operating system with the agp card installed but with the onboard adapter as primary can you see the card In the device manager?. Lots of things to try

Reply 2 of 9, by Gabbo

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sydres wrote on 2024-11-21, 06:08:

Did the rage ii work correctly? Is the addin card set to primary display adapter in bios? If you boot into the operating system with the agp card installed but with the onboard adapter as primary can you see the card In the device manager?. Lots of things to try

The Rage II was working fine, in the rather lacking bios the only video options I have seen are to choose either PCI or AGP for the add-in card.

Problem I have is as long as the new card is in there I can't even post, as far as I can tell, since I don't even get as far as bios regardless of whether I use the mobo or GPUs video out

Reply 3 of 9, by sydres

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I'm guessing you don't have a second system with agp to test the GeForce MX in? Have you examined the card
For bulging/leaking capacitors as it seems that you have had at least two times where the card posted seems possibly related to failing components. Check the motherboard also. If your not sure what to look for there are multiple pictures of failed caps on this site.
The motherboard appears to have multiple OEM versions as well as an Intel version it might help to find a newer BIOS or someone on vogons seems to have flashed the Intel bios.
Gateway 4000622 a.k.a. Intel D815EEA

Reply 4 of 9, by Gabbo

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sydres wrote on 2024-11-21, 15:49:
I'm guessing you don't have a second system with agp to test the GeForce MX in? Have you examined the card For bulging/leaking c […]
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I'm guessing you don't have a second system with agp to test the GeForce MX in? Have you examined the card
For bulging/leaking capacitors as it seems that you have had at least two times where the card posted seems possibly related to failing components. Check the motherboard also. If your not sure what to look for there are multiple pictures of failed caps on this site.
The motherboard appears to have multiple OEM versions as well as an Intel version it might help to find a newer BIOS or someone on vogons seems to have flashed the Intel bios.
Gateway 4000622 a.k.a. Intel D815EEA

Sadly no other system to test it in. I did flash to the P09 OEM BIOS as part of my troubleshooting yesterday, which appears to be the one mentioned in that other thread, it was previously on P06.

Hadn't checked the caps, no obviousl visible bulging/leaking across the GPU or MOBO

Reply 5 of 9, by sydres

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I don't know where you are located and ease of access to computer parts. It may be time to cut your losses on the card unless you can find obvious damage as these are generally common, low cost cards.

Reply 6 of 9, by Gabbo

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At this stage I'm inclined to agree. It was a quick pickup because it was so cheap, I've got a GF4 Ti4200 on the way let's pray for better fortune with this one.

Reply 7 of 9, by sydres

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Good choice for replacement. GeForce 4 ti4200 is one of my favorites though recently I picked up a 128bit GeForce 4 mx440 that really surprised me considering I don't remember having any joy with them when they came out! Hopefully that solves your issues!

Reply 8 of 9, by Gabbo

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An update after I'd given up, because the Ti4200 has been giving me beep codes from the MOBO where the MX400 never did that - leading me to wonder if it was in fact outputting all along. So if anyone ever experiences this, the solution:

It was the monitor. My old Research Machines CRT. I was able to get a picture again by removing the VGA extension I had to use to reach the hard-wired VGA cable from the monitor, well that got me picture until I power-cycled again and was back to no picture. I had noticed this cable doesnt have all pins (not just one missing, IIRC, not at the desk as I write this)

I tried hooking the PC up to one of the modern displays at my main desktop that still has VGA in and I get picture all the time without fail. So for now I'm going to just grab a 4:3/5:4 VGA LCD display for the old desktop setup while I keep an eye out for a more "modern" CRT to use at that desk.

Reply 9 of 9, by sydres

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That's mixed news, good that you were able to verify that the mx400 works, bad that the 4200 is no good.
Have used LCDs with old systems they seem ok under windows but not great under msdos. What beep code?
One long, three short?