analog_programmer wrote on 2024-06-02, 06:15:

roytam1 wrote on 2024-06-02, 01:22:

added TLS 1.3 support to my retro browsers: https://msfn.org/board/topic/185966-my-browse … comment=1266992

Those archive files contain some folders with browsers (pre)installed. Where exactly are the TLS patch files?

its SSL/TLS library (i.e. NSS) is replaced with newer one.

some of them are recompiled as a whole, while some of them (i.e. Netscape 9) only has an archive of updated NSS-related components.

Modern (currently v128) Firefox for Windows 7: https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox

zyga64 wrote on 2024-07-13, 14:27:

Modern (currently v128) Firefox for Windows 7: https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox

Thanks, it should work on Vista as well. I'll give it a try.

Guys, thorium for XP

https://github.com/Alex313031/thorium-legacy

Am I the only one who feels there are no "good", "normal" web browsers left?

UCyborg wrote on 2024-11-16, 17:59:

Am I the only one who feels there are no "good", "normal" web browsers left?

I've been pretty happy with Librewolf as main and Brave as backup browser

God Of Gaming wrote on 2024-11-16, 19:27:

UCyborg wrote on 2024-11-16, 17:59:

Am I the only one who feels there are no "good", "normal" web browsers left?

I've been pretty happy with Librewolf as main and Brave as backup browser

A few years ago I switched to Ungoogled Chromium, when Brave was constantly bloating up with cryptocurrency related cr*p. Last year, finally I switched to Librewolf after UC once again broke its unofficial support for GPU hardware acceleration under Linux (I just got sick of those googlish problems coming through Chromium). This way my primary daily driver browser became Librewolf. I still think UC is better than Librewolf in terms of integrated options, but hardware compatibility is more important to me.

So, at the current moment I know only two "normal" web-browsers for modern hardware with newer operating systems installed - Ungoogled Chromium and Librewolf. The rest are 100% enterprise tracking sh*tware.

P.S. God Of Gaming, не ми е много добър английския, ама се старая и уж съфорумците ме разбират 😁

I don't even know what I want anymore. I keep thinking I should use something else, but I always come back to Pale Moon. But one is expected to become the programmer if he wants any extension only available on mainstream browsers. And I hate programming!

Yes UCyborg...Pale Moon for newer Windows systems and on older ones roytam1's New Moon 27/28 or Serpent 52/55 (sorry, don't have the time to post at MSFN at the moment...hopefully come back some day - greetings to MSFN 😀).

On our Win7 system there's latest Pale Moon for non AVX CPUs (v33.2.1) and latest compatible Firefox ESR (115.x.x) - the latter's design is a waste of space, it feels like a quarter or even a third of the screen is taken by bars and tabs (most is empty/grey space), but the useful status-bar has gone and the tabs are above the bookmarks - it got worse with every version over the years (and I already trimmed it to the old style).

kind regards
soggi

soggi wrote on 2024-11-17, 05:38:

On our Win7 system there's latest Pale Moon for non AVX CPUs (v33.2.1) and latest compatible Firefox ESR (115.x.x) - the latter's design is a waste of space, it feels like a quarter or even a third of the screen is taken by bars and tabs (most is empty/grey space), but the useful status-bar has gone and the tabs are above the bookmarks - it got worse with every version over the years (and I already trimmed it to the old style).

kind regards
soggi

You can clean it up a bit with just 5 minutes of effort:

OMG...this is extreme resolution...we have 1024*768 and 1280*1024...I stopped searching for solutions because after installing Pale Moon some years ago Firefox is just the fallback option and in addition the Win7 PC is used seldomly. But thx for your effort!

kind regards
soggi

BTW that's the way I like it:

wow I haven't seen 1080p being referred to as an "extreme" reslution since like 2005

Pale Moon and SeaMonkey are the only ones I know that respect ClearType settings on modern Windows, some fonts are just too thin for my eyes otherwise. SeaMonkey is too behind on web standards and Pale Moon has been historically plagued by memory leaks and is one of the slowest browsers to use unless you only visit simple sites. And yeah, since it's not Chrome, there are some compatibility issues. Edge can read ClearType's contrast, but it blurs fonts too much and it's just another Chromium that I prefer to avoid when possible.

I tried to get Ablaze Floorp going, but it wants CPU with SSE 4.1 and I can't compile it from source without these optimizations because 6 GB of RAM is not sufficient for the task. I'd probably still miss some aspects of Pale Moon's GUI, but at least I'd have updated uBlock Origin and Reddit Enhancement Suite. And maybe those ClearType params overrides work better in newer Firefox-based browser than in version 110, judging by quickly trying version 125. Still, why do I have to use them in the first place...but then again, I run a bunch shell enhancement programs on top of Windows 10...

So yeah, no browser really clicks with me.

God Of Gaming wrote on 2024-11-17, 13:38:

wow I haven't seen 1080p being referred to as an "extreme" reslution since like 2005

I've been' using 1080p screen since 2009, later joined by older 1280x1024 screen (dual screen setup). John Carmack was programming Quake on 1920x1080 screen in the 90s, I read in gaming circles 1440p is the new 1080p these days. 8K sounds more extreme to me. 😜

God Of Gaming wrote on 2024-11-17, 13:38:

wow I haven't seen 1080p being referred to as an "extreme" reslution since like 2005

Above all it's a very impractical resolution for me, I don't like wide screens and use 4:3 / 5:4 displays with 1024*768 / 1280*1024 / 1400*1050 / 1600*1200. 😀

kind regards
soggi

AOL brought back the netscape browser in name only as a chromium fork

https://isp.netscape.com/
https://aol.sentrybay.com/deploy/aol.php?lice … sdeflnk00000002

twiz11 wrote on 2024-11-20, 21:43:

AOL brought back the netscape browser in name only as a chromium fork

https://isp.netscape.com/
https://aol.sentrybay.com/deploy/aol.php?lice … sdeflnk00000002

Oh wow, I didn't realize AOL was still a thing.

pete8475 wrote on 2024-11-20, 23:06:

twiz11 wrote on 2024-11-20, 21:43:

AOL brought back the netscape browser in name only as a chromium fork

https://isp.netscape.com/
https://aol.sentrybay.com/deploy/aol.php?lice … sdeflnk00000002

Oh wow, I didn't realize AOL was still a thing.

https://youtu.be/pwre8oHZdL4

really sad but netscape is just a brand name, of course the company itself died in 90s when AOL acquired it

The head post should include Basilisk (Serpent) which is a bit faster than New Moon and Supermium, which now exists. I would say full HD is quite "extreme". Those monitors have become cheap not that long ago, and have very small pixels, making fixed size GUI hard to read.