Wes1262 wrote on 2024-10-18, 14:53:

Wow GF 8 🤣! Yeah that quite a time difference. I just used Nvidia's pick-a-driver tool and thats the one it gave me. The driver situation is so annoying. This is not the first time I am getting horrible drivers recommended by the official sites. I need to make myself a chart mapping each card generation to a Nvidia driver number.

No, you need to upload that chart: 🤣:

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-10-18, 06:07:

So it was indeed a Ti500. PHEW
It could run a full 3dmark 2001, but it might have some problems. The monitor kept adjusting between each 3dmark test. With both DVI and VGA.
Maybe I should try different drivers?

Isn't it just changing resolution between windows desktop and tests?

It's the same resolution for both desktop and tests. Also it's the first time I see a card do that. Normally I don't get "input: DVI" on screen. It's seamless

H3nrik V! wrote on 2024-10-18, 15:40:

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-10-18, 14:53:

Wow GF 8 🤣! Yeah that quite a time difference. I just used Nvidia's pick-a-driver tool and thats the one it gave me. The driver situation is so annoying. This is not the first time I am getting horrible drivers recommended by the official sites. I need to make myself a chart mapping each card generation to a Nvidia driver number.

No, you need to upload that chart: 🤣:

Being ironic? It'd be useful for me. Best drivers are usually not older than 3 to 6 months from the original release date of the GPU.... or so I heard.

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-10-19, 06:41:

H3nrik V! wrote on 2024-10-18, 15:40:

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-10-18, 14:53:

Wow GF 8 🤣! Yeah that quite a time difference. I just used Nvidia's pick-a-driver tool and thats the one it gave me. The driver situation is so annoying. This is not the first time I am getting horrible drivers recommended by the official sites. I need to make myself a chart mapping each card generation to a Nvidia driver number.

No, you need to upload that chart: 🤣:

Being ironic? It'd be useful for me. Best drivers are usually not older than 3 to 6 months from the original release date of the GPU.... or so I heard.

Nope, no irony here. Back when I was playing along with the "Netburst aiming for the stars" thread, it became obvious that too new drivers were less than ideal performance wise. So, every time now, I play with a build, I always wonder if performance is cribbled by the driver I'm using, and I usually just don't have time to do many experiments, so if someone already was compiling a list, I'd love for it to be shared, so I could use that 😀

Continued to round out my sound card collection this past month with some new additions, including the Media Vision Pro Audio Studio 16XL, Ensoniq Soundscape Elite, Orchid GameWave 32, some sort of Boca Research modem/ sound card combo, and a Sound Blaster Live 5.1 Platinum boxed set.

Despite owning a lot of sound cards, this is the first Sound Blaster Live card I've ever acquired. Figured I might as well get the complete box as a starting point.

Shponglefan wrote on 2024-10-19, 17:02:

Continued to round out my sound card collection this past month with some new additions, including the Media Vision Pro Audio Studio 16XL,

Good find ! The 16XL is an odd one, sold in some of the MV 3000 and 3001 kits iirc.
It is not same as the standard Studio card 650-0060-x/ due to missing one jack (like PAS16 has 3, other Studio's has 4) and has the 26pin header (J2) for the MV Pro Wave Korg Wavetable add-on.
Not sure what the J1 26pin header is for, unless for a diff cdrom. All the chips are identical to the other Pro Audio Studio's and would use the Studio floppy disk driver set.
Here is the link to MV Pro Wave and a archive pic for the board.
http://www.amoretro.de/wp-content/uploads/dre … _comparison.jpg

Only new things I bought recently are some Pentium cpu's and HS+fans to complete a few old soc 5 boards....

I will replace another 166MHz non MMX processor with this one, since the L1 cache is doubled and the core voltage is lower.

Found a nice 440BX board + PII-400 Deschutes + GF4 MX440 (64-bit bus, sadly) + Creative/Ensoniq ES1370 today at local flea market for 10€ 😀

Board is a basic Epox EP-61BXA-M, but in pristine condition. Did the basic contact cleanup & maintenance and worked perfectly fine (except for 1 of 3 128MB SDRAM modules that came with the board, which was broken).

It's still pending to test the Ensoniq card, as I didn't manage to get it working with the standard SB128 drivers I had in my retro systems shared folder. I've just replaced it with another card for a quick test, so it will be a matter of spending some time with it another day.

Not something very special, but pretty happy with the hunt.

dominusprog wrote on 2024-10-20, 11:20:

I will replace another 166MHz non MMX processor with this one, since the L1 cache is doubled and the core voltage is lower.

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I don't know if it's just the cache or some arch tweaks, but going 166 classic to 166 MMX is supposedly the same boost as going to 200 classic. Plus you can run MMX stuff of course.

BitWrangler wrote on 2024-10-20, 13:48:

dominusprog wrote on 2024-10-20, 11:20:

I will replace another 166MHz non MMX processor with this one, since the L1 cache is doubled and the core voltage is lower.

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I don't know if it's just the cache or some arch tweaks, but going 166 classic to 166 MMX is supposedly the same boost as going to 200 classic. Plus you can run MMX stuff of course.

MMX has double the size of L1 cache. 😉

mmx_91 wrote on 2024-10-20, 13:29:

Found a nice 440BX board + PII-400 Deschutes + GF4 MX440 (64-bit bus, sadly) + Creative/Ensoniq ES1370 today at local flea marke […]
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Found a nice 440BX board + PII-400 Deschutes + GF4 MX440 (64-bit bus, sadly) + Creative/Ensoniq ES1370 today at local flea market for 10€ 😀

Board is a basic Epox EP-61BXA-M, but in pristine condition. Did the basic contact cleanup & maintenance and worked perfectly fine (except for 1 of 3 128MB SDRAM modules that came with the board, which was broken).

It's still pending to test the Ensoniq card, as I didn't manage to get it working with the standard SB128 drivers I had in my retro systems shared folder. I've just replaced it with another card for a quick test, so it will be a matter of spending some time with it another day.

Not something very special, but pretty happy with the hunt.

Strange that SB128 drivers don't work... I actually had to use them for both my MSI MS-6168's onboard Creative audio and MS-6163 VER1.
(my VER2 doesn't have the ES1373 chip anymore, though it's been known to exist a VER2 board with the onboard audio populated too.)

BitWrangler wrote on 2024-10-20, 13:48:

dominusprog wrote on 2024-10-20, 11:20:

I will replace another 166MHz non MMX processor with this one, since the L1 cache is doubled and the core voltage is lower.

The attachment IMG_20241020_130759.jpg is no longer available

I don't know if it's just the cache or some arch tweaks, but going 166 classic to 166 MMX is supposedly the same boost as going to 200 classic. Plus you can run MMX stuff of course.

Good to know. I'll run some benchmarks to see how much it affects the performance.

mmx_91 wrote on 2024-10-20, 13:29:

Found a nice 440BX board + PII-400 Deschutes + GF4 MX440 (64-bit bus, sadly) + Creative/Ensoniq ES1370 today at local flea marke […]
Show full quote

Found a nice 440BX board + PII-400 Deschutes + GF4 MX440 (64-bit bus, sadly) + Creative/Ensoniq ES1370 today at local flea market for 10€ 😀

Board is a basic Epox EP-61BXA-M, but in pristine condition. Did the basic contact cleanup & maintenance and worked perfectly fine (except for 1 of 3 128MB SDRAM modules that came with the board, which was broken).

It's still pending to test the Ensoniq card, as I didn't manage to get it working with the standard SB128 drivers I had in my retro systems shared folder. I've just replaced it with another card for a quick test, so it will be a matter of spending some time with it another day.

Not something very special, but pretty happy with the hunt.

I really like epox booards from that era. I rarely see them.

PcBytes wrote on 2024-10-20, 13:55:

Strange that SB128 drivers don't work... I actually had to use them for both my MSI MS-6168's onboard Creative audio and MS-6163 VER1.
(my VER2 doesn't have the ES1373 chip anymore, though it's been known to exist a VER2 board with the onboard audio populated too.)

Yes, I think the drivers I tested it with were for the typical and later ES1371/1373, which is what I have for testing.
Maybe for this ES1370 I just need to download a different driver, let's see!

smtkr wrote on 2024-10-20, 14:10:

I really like epox booards from that era. I rarely see them.

It even supports Coppermine voltages so it's a good surprise, given the weirdness of the board manual. Sadly no 133Mhz bus selection, but this has to be seen as a 'plus' haha.

No plans for this board, maybe I'll play with it a little bit more and see what comes to my mind 😀

not PC but I got a boxed GB because of nostalgia reasons - the device inside was on the crappy side but the box/inserts/stuff are like new
I will just put in there my own 1990 GB 😁

keropi wrote on 2024-10-20, 17:37:

not PC but I got a boxed GB because of nostalgia reasons - the device inside was on the crappy side but the box/inserts/stuff are like new
I will just put in there my own 1990 GB 😁

I absolutely love it. I have three DMGs. I don't have the box version you showed above anymore, but I did find the box to my Gameboy+Link's Awakening bundle.

The Gameboy is one of those systems that I remember so fondly. The hardware was horribly outdated when it came out, but developers were able to do so much with it. And it had such a long lifespan.

I picked up this lovely boxed Athlon X2 at the thrift store today. It's clearly been used, but it takes a special person to remove the thermal paste and put it back in its box before donating it to a thrift store. Heck it takes a special person just to keep the original dang box in the first place!

This isn't the first time I've come across a boxed CPU at this store. A few years ago I saw an i7, I think it was an 870 or 970. First-gen and not worth the $50 they were asking for, even back in 2021.