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First post, by Styler

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Hello,
I'm trying to find any bios for Realizm family cards: 100, 200, 300, 500, 800.
If someone makes a dump of their card, I'll be very grateful! =)

Thanks!

Reply 1 of 13, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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Styler wrote on 2022-07-07, 09:37:
Hello, I'm trying to find any bios for Realizm family cards: 100, 200, 300, 500, 800. If someone makes a dump of their card, I'l […]
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Hello,
I'm trying to find any bios for Realizm family cards: 100, 200, 300, 500, 800.
If someone makes a dump of their card, I'll be very grateful! =)

Thanks!

There's a 200 BIOS on VGAMuseum - https://www.vgamuseum.info/index.php/cpu/item … 64c3de53b6378a8

Reply 2 of 13, by Styler

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>> There's a 200 BIOS on VGAMuseum
Wow, thanks a lot! =)

Reply 4 of 13, by Styler

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Thanks, it's the same link as was posted by @PC Hoarder Patrol

If you find more of them, I'll glad!
I'm trying to make Realizm 500 made for SUN Sparc get working on PC machines

Reply 5 of 13, by nobrakelight

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I have a 200 still in box if you're interested let me know

Reply 7 of 13, by Paadam

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I Realizm useful for anything other than using it in some vintage CAD build? I have Realizm 500 (iirc), PC version.

Many 3Dfx and Pentium III-S stuff.
My amibay FS thread: www.amibay.com/showthread.php?88030-Man ... -370-dual)

Reply 8 of 13, by Styler

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Paadam wrote on 2023-01-09, 20:07:

I Realizm useful for anything other than using it in some vintage CAD build? I have Realizm 500 (iirc), PC version.

Can you please dump your video bios?

Reply 10 of 13, by mattw

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acl wrote on 2023-05-05, 11:16:

SUN XVR-500 and I'm also looking for a way to make it work on a PC.

I have experience with different Sun XVR card and it was not possible to make it work in PC (at least not as primary VGA card) just with simple BIOS modification . the reason in my case was that with some resistors on the board they set it to non-VGA PCI Class ID. So, first step to evaluate the situation is to put the card in computer and using Linux 'lspci' command (or any other OS that has similar tool or way to check the PCI details) and see the PCI class of the card, for example "300" is the PCI Class ID for VGA:

VGA compatible controller [0300]

other options on Sun XVR card are:

Non-VGA unclassified device [0001]

Display controller [0380]

in my case, I was able to find the Resistor that changes between PCI Class of "380" and "001", but not the one that sets the PCI Class to "300". That means the best that I achieved was to use it as Secondary card in the system and not Primary adapter. Last, but not least, if the PCI Class ID is not "300", the Video BIOS is not loaded by the motherboard BIOS, i.e. even if you have proper Video BIOS for PC, the card will not work as Primary adapter, if the PCI Class is not set to "300".

Reply 11 of 13, by acl

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mattw wrote on 2023-05-05, 11:58:
I have experience with different Sun XVR card and it was not possible to make it work in PC (at least not as primary VGA card) j […]
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acl wrote on 2023-05-05, 11:16:

SUN XVR-500 and I'm also looking for a way to make it work on a PC.

I have experience with different Sun XVR card and it was not possible to make it work in PC (at least not as primary VGA card) just with simple BIOS modification . the reason in my case was that with some resistors on the board they set it to non-VGA PCI Class ID. So, first step to evaluate the situation is to put the card in computer and using Linux 'lspci' command (or any other OS that has similar tool or way to check the PCI details) and see the PCI class of the card, for example "300" is the PCI Class ID for VGA:

VGA compatible controller [0300]

other options on Sun XVR card are:

Non-VGA unclassified device [0001]

Display controller [0380]

in my case, I was able to find the Resistor that changes between PCI Class of "380" and "001", but not the one that sets the PCI Class to "300". That means the best that I achieved was to use it as Secondary card in the system and not Primary adapter. Last, but not least, if the PCI Class ID is not "300", the Video BIOS is not loaded by the motherboard BIOS, i.e. even if you have proper Video BIOS for PC, the card will not work as Primary adapter, if the PCI Class is not set to "300".

Very impressive !
When i was given this card, i knew it was a Sun Sparc card and i had very little hope of getting it to work... but the card was free, so i took it anyway.

I guess it was not super easy to pinpoint the resistor to alter.
Regarding "300" value, it's also possible that it is not linked to a resistor at all (maybe programmed in the Xilinx FPGA ?)

Do you think loading a regular Wildcat II driver would be possible ? (modified ?)

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Reply 12 of 13, by TM30

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Hello,
does anyone know if the Realizm 800 also was released for SUN Workstation? I can not find information about this.
Because I recently got one and it does not post. When I insert it as second graphics card and look up in HWINFO, the card is found and recognized correctly as a Realizm 800. So my guess is that there could be a SUN Workstation BIOS on it?

Reply 13 of 13, by TM30

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Some additional information:

I also have got a working Realizm 800. When I use this as primary graphics card and add the non working Realizm 800 i can see the following: In Windows Device Manager both cards show up properly. In Windows Display properties I can extend with a second Monitor, it lets me do this but the Screen from the non working 800 stays black. In HWINFO the information of both cards shown is almost identical, exept that from the non working 800 it does not show how much VRAM it has and it also does not show the Speed of the RAMDAC. Also the Fan from the non working 800 always runs at 100%.

How can I identify, extract or update the bios on these cards? I cannot find any flash tool.