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First post, by C96Cyrix

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Hello all! New to the forums. 😀

I've recently picked up a Latitude D620 to put XP on, and spec out how I didn't spec out the D520 I used to have. It's also got a PCMCIA slot (PC Card Type I and II).

It's GMA doesn't have many "modern" codecs though (lacking H.264), any old PCMCIA cards that can help it out? I figure it's a long shot asking, but worth trying.

If there is none, any interesting PCMCIA cards in general? I want to own some kind of cool card to make use of the slot.

Dell Latitude D620 - Intel Core 2 Duo T7400, GMA945, 4 GB DDR2, 60 GB HDD + 256 GB SSD, XP/W10/Linux
Dell Latitude 5490 - Intel Core i5-8350U, UHD 620, 24 GB DDR4, 256 GB SSD, W10

Reply 1 of 7, by Skorbin

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The only PCMCIA card I am aware of which might help in the graphics department is actually an eGPU adapter.
It's called "beast" something and is available as mPCIe and also as cardbus adapter.
From what I read on the net, the stuff seems to be somewhat fragile but seems to work in most cases. You need a separate graphics card (and a separate PSU, if the card needs it), though. So forget about nice and compact build when it is running 😉

Otherwise you might consider to enhance your laptop with interfaces it is missing or has with lower speed (USB, Firewire, eSATA, gigabit network, CF card reader, bluetooth, sound card, etc.).
I have a bunch of ATA flash card cards I can use directly, but they are harder to obtain and more expensive then to use a CF card reader instead.

Reply 2 of 7, by Bondi

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Hey, C96Cyrix. Welcome to the forum!
There are many interesting Cardbus (PCMCIA is the older 16 bit type) cards to try on your laptop. LIke TV tuners(Avermedia is my favourite), video capture cards, video cards (VTbook with some basic 3D acceleration), sound cards and on. I'm using daily my Creative Audigy ZS Notebook, which is a great card for bit accurate digital(optical) output and also has a decent DAC and ADC for audio playback/record, and also supports EAX.
Another potentially useful card is a 3G modem, like Merlin u740.

PCMCIA Sound Cards chart
archive.org: PCMCIA software, manuals, drivers

Reply 3 of 7, by MikeSG

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I use the Audigy 2 ZS notebook pcmcia card.. it's great. totally eliminates noise in the speakers and very clear.

Reply 4 of 7, by Skorbin

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If I read the specifications of your machine correctly, you have quite some options to make use of your slot.

Sound: Your onboard sound is a SigmaTel STAC9200. So installing an Audigy 2 ZS Notebook will probably be a nice improvment in the sound department, supporting even EAX 4.0.

Graphics: You have the chipset based GMA 950 and a dedicated Quadro NVS 110M, which is similar to a Geforce Go 7300. Whether a VTbook card will be an upgrade to the Quadro I doubt it.
You might have a look at the eGPU "GDC Beast", which is also available for the PC Card slot. The potential gain depends on the graphics card you would install in the extension. Please note that it might require some fiddling to get it work, but the potential improvement might be worth it.
Another alternative is to look for the big docking station from Dell "D/Dock" (PD01X), which is available for your laptop and has an internal slot for a PCI (graphics) card. You will be a bit limited with size and power consumption of the card, but it is way more compact and clean then the eGPU variant. You might consider a ZOTAC Geforce GT610 which from time to time crop up in the PCI version. On AMD side you might check for the HD5450 (available from HIS and Club3D). There are more, but not as powerful then the aforementioned. Anyhow, as the interface is only PCI it will limit the potential gain to some extent. Your internal Quadro is connected via PCI Express Gen 1, so here the limit will be rather the card itself, not supporting the higher video engines and directx versions.

Network: your laptop already has a Gb network, so probably not much improvement to be gained with a new network card

USB: I am not sure if an additional USB 3.0 card will be fully utilized in your card slot, but might be an improvement anyway.

Optional: Firewire, eSATA, TV cards, CF card reader, 3G card, etc.

Reply 5 of 7, by C96Cyrix

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Skorbin wrote on 2024-10-17, 15:11:

Otherwise you might consider to enhance your laptop with interfaces it is missing or has with lower speed (USB, Firewire, eSATA, gigabit network, CF card reader, bluetooth, sound card, etc.).
I have a bunch of ATA flash card cards I can use directly, but they are harder to obtain and more expensive then to use a CF card reader instead.

I have enough USB slots; got a CF to PCMCIA card to have some archive storage on the laptop. Useful for keeping drivers/files on after OS changes, maybe i'll get an SD to CF adapter later for better capacity.

Dell Latitude D620 - Intel Core 2 Duo T7400, GMA945, 4 GB DDR2, 60 GB HDD + 256 GB SSD, XP/W10/Linux
Dell Latitude 5490 - Intel Core i5-8350U, UHD 620, 24 GB DDR4, 256 GB SSD, W10

Reply 6 of 7, by C96Cyrix

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Skorbin wrote on 2024-10-18, 14:12:
If I read the specifications of your machine correctly, you have quite some options to make use of your slot. […]
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If I read the specifications of your machine correctly, you have quite some options to make use of your slot.

Sound: Your onboard sound is a SigmaTel STAC9200. So installing an Audigy 2 ZS Notebook will probably be a nice improvment in the sound department, supporting even EAX 4.0.

Graphics: You have the chipset based GMA 950 and a dedicated Quadro NVS 110M, which is similar to a Geforce Go 7300. Whether a VTbook card will be an upgrade to the Quadro I doubt it.
You might have a look at the eGPU "GDC Beast", which is also available for the PC Card slot. The potential gain depends on the graphics card you would install in the extension. Please note that it might require some fiddling to get it work, but the potential improvement might be worth it.

Another alternative is to look for the big docking station from Dell "D/Dock" (PD01X), which is available for your laptop and has an internal slot for a PCI (graphics) card. You will be a bit limited with size and power consumption of the card, but it is way more compact and clean then the eGPU variant. You might consider a ZOTAC Geforce GT610 which from time to time crop up in the PCI version. On AMD side you might check for the HD5450 (available from HIS and Club3D). There are more, but not as powerful then the aforementioned.

Network: your laptop already has a Gb network, so probably not much improvement to be gained with a new network card

USB: I am not sure if an additional USB 3.0 card will be fully utilized in your card slot, but might be an improvement anyway.

I'm fine with the STAC9200; I actually want to keep stock audio/speakers, as I have some nostalgia for how it sounded. But thank you for the ideas, never knew these cards existed!

And no Quadro on this system, I intentionally avoided it due to the Nvidia cards of this era breaking; can't imagine one would've had much life 17 years on. I'm also fine with the GMA right now (aside from codecs); but when I can justify the cost, maybe i'll give the Dell PD10X or GDC Beast ideas a shot later. Not sure if i'd settle for a 610/5450, or go full external with GT 7xx/9xx (XP drivers).

As far as network, I did upgrade the WiFi card; I had an AR9485 sitting around, salvaged from an HP machine. Not the fastest, but speed-wise it's already at half bandwidth due to the laptop's antennas, so doesn't matter.

Dell Latitude D620 - Intel Core 2 Duo T7400, GMA945, 4 GB DDR2, 60 GB HDD + 256 GB SSD, XP/W10/Linux
Dell Latitude 5490 - Intel Core i5-8350U, UHD 620, 24 GB DDR4, 256 GB SSD, W10

Reply 7 of 7, by C96Cyrix

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Forgot to say this, but can't edit post; I don't think i'd consider the VTBook, as it's tricky driver-wise with my tri-boot, and I want some more VRAM to play with. That said, i'd consider it viable if I had a W98 era machine, and i'll keep it in mind if I ever get one. 😀

Dell Latitude D620 - Intel Core 2 Duo T7400, GMA945, 4 GB DDR2, 60 GB HDD + 256 GB SSD, XP/W10/Linux
Dell Latitude 5490 - Intel Core i5-8350U, UHD 620, 24 GB DDR4, 256 GB SSD, W10