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Reply 53600 of 55600, by Wes1262

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Folks help me out save this stuff from a landfill. Do you notice anything worth keeping? (More will come.....) https://imgur.com/a/0dhPBFo I can't get everything. I don't have the space 😜 Thanks!

Reply 53601 of 55600, by Munx

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Wes1262 wrote on 2024-07-12, 18:48:

Folks help me out save this stuff from a landfill. Do you notice anything worth keeping? (More will come.....) https://imgur.com/a/0dhPBFo I can't get everything. I don't have the space 😜 Thanks!

Matrox Mystique 220 (The PCI card at the beginning) and the cirrus logic cards are really nice to have. Trident Blade3D is a nice under-dog from the era. You also got a nice and rare 3DFX Banshee in there (the all-gold PCB and heatsink)

My builds!
The FireStarter 2.0 - The wooden K5
The Underdog - The budget K6
The Voodoo powerhouse - The power-hungry K7
The troll PC - The Socket 423 Pentium 4

Reply 53602 of 55600, by devius

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Wes1262 wrote on 2024-07-12, 18:48:

Folks help me out save this stuff from a landfill. Do you notice anything worth keeping? (More will come.....) https://imgur.com/a/0dhPBFo I can't get everything. I don't have the space 😜 Thanks!

I would leave all the cards without brackets, all the S3 Trio3D, all the SiS, all the Tridents, and take everything else. Although the correct answer is: if you really don't have the space bring them all anyway and sell/donate a few afterwards.

Reply 53603 of 55600, by Wes1262

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Munx wrote on 2024-07-12, 19:20:
Wes1262 wrote on 2024-07-12, 18:48:

Folks help me out save this stuff from a landfill. Do you notice anything worth keeping? (More will come.....) https://imgur.com/a/0dhPBFo I can't get everything. I don't have the space 😜 Thanks!

Matrox Mystique 220 (The PCI card at the beginning) and the cirrus logic cards are really nice to have. Trident Blade3D is a nice under-dog from the era. You also got a nice and rare 3DFX Banshee in there (the all-gold PCB and heatsink)

haha you really need to help me out with the exact links because I cant tell them apart 😜 even after a search on google. thanks!

Reply 53604 of 55600, by Wes1262

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devius wrote on 2024-07-12, 19:51:
Wes1262 wrote on 2024-07-12, 18:48:

Folks help me out save this stuff from a landfill. Do you notice anything worth keeping? (More will come.....) https://imgur.com/a/0dhPBFo I can't get everything. I don't have the space 😜 Thanks!

I would leave all the cards without brackets, all the S3 Trio3D, all the SiS, all the Tridents, and take everything else. Although the correct answer is: if you really don't have the space bring them all anyway and sell/donate a few afterwards.

There are a bunch of brackets in the box that belong to the cards. So there is a good chance most of the cards have the corresponding bracket!

Reply 53605 of 55600, by Shponglefan

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Continued to feed my obsession with industrial P4 motherboards by acquiring another Axiomtek IMB200 motherboard.

Haven't tested it yet, but based on a brief physical inspection it seems to be in good shape.

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Reply 53606 of 55600, by rasz_pl

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Wes1262 wrote on 2024-07-12, 18:48:

Folks help me out save this stuff from a landfill. Do you notice anything worth keeping? (More will come.....) https://imgur.com/a/0dhPBFo I can't get everything. I don't have the space 😜 Thanks!

Imagine someone posting on vintage Car forum about a stack of old used tires - landfill is precisely where 90% of this belongs 😐
The only interesting cart in there is GeForce2 Ultra (edit: and banshee because of 3dfx tax), rest are all in '$10 on ebay and nobody buying' category
Those are the cards people in "worst AGP card" threads fan over, like Worst fastest early 3D cards or Slow 3D video card on super socket 7 shootout (sis 305, savage4, trident blade3d, riva tnt, etc)
The only non crappy (but still useless) are Rage128pros, first ATI chip that actually worked ok in games, and tnt2 m64s. Those belong to "Ill build slow vintage computer on purpose" category. Maaaybe Radeon SDR and 7000 also count here.
PCI cards have some utility so I would not throw those away, 4MB Virge, even 2MB CL or matrox

https://github.com/raszpl/FIC-486-GAC-2-Cache-Module for AT&T Globalyst
https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16 memory board
https://github.com/raszpl/440BX Reference Design adapted to Kicad
https://github.com/raszpl/Zenith_ZBIOS MFM-300 Monitor

Reply 53607 of 55600, by Ozzuneoj

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rasz_pl wrote on 2024-07-13, 01:08:
Imagine someone posting on vintage Car forum about a stack of old used tires - landfill is precisely where 90% of this belongs : […]
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Wes1262 wrote on 2024-07-12, 18:48:

Folks help me out save this stuff from a landfill. Do you notice anything worth keeping? (More will come.....) https://imgur.com/a/0dhPBFo I can't get everything. I don't have the space 😜 Thanks!

Imagine someone posting on vintage Car forum about a stack of old used tires - landfill is precisely where 90% of this belongs 😐
The only interesting cart in there is GeForce2 Ultra(edit: and banshee because of 3dfx tax), rest are all in '$10 on ebay and nobody buying' category
Those are the cards people in "worst AGP card" threads fan over, like Worst fastest early 3D cards or Slow 3D video card on super socket 7 shootout (sis 305, savage4, trident blade3d, riva tnt, etc)
The only non crappy (but still useless) are Rage128pros, first ATI chip that actually worked ok in games.
PCI cards have some utility so I would not throw those away, 4MB Virge, even 1MB CL

Ouch.

Personally, I don't want to be lumped in with the people that would consider everything that isn't rare to be "old used tires".

There's a pretty large variety of cards here and all can be fun to tinker with depending on what you want to do. PCI cards are definitely a bit more desirable because they work in a larger variety of systems... but if someone doesn't already have one of everything and has an interest in just throwing a card in a PC to see what it can do, they could grab a bunch of these and experience a lot of different hardware (and drivers!) without having to gather cards for years.

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-07-12, 18:48:

Folks help me out save this stuff from a landfill. Do you notice anything worth keeping? (More will come.....) https://imgur.com/a/0dhPBFo I can't get everything. I don't have the space 😜 Thanks!

Without knowing how much you have to pay for these or how much space you have, I'd say grab any of the PCI and ISA video cards, grab the AGP cards with the most memory chips (this is an extremely general way to identify the cards that aren't absolute lowest budget models), then grab a variety of the others that look to be in good condition or have high build quality. Grab some SIS cards, some TNTs, some ATi and Matrox cards... I also see at least a couple of Intel 740s there as well.

Again, this depends greatly on how much you're paying for them and how much that money matters to you ($5 is significant to some, yet insignificant to others).

Don't take anything with leaky or swollen capacitors unless you are interested in repairing things. Don't expect any of them to be worth a bunch of money, other than maybe the Geforce 2 Ti (decently valuable if it works, but that fan is likely toast), and to a lesser extent the Voodoo Banshee (gold card with gold heatsink).

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Reply 53608 of 55600, by Gmlb256

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Wes1262 wrote on 2024-07-12, 18:48:

Folks help me out save this stuff from a landfill. Do you notice anything worth keeping? (More will come.....) https://imgur.com/a/0dhPBFo I can't get everything. I don't have the space 😜 Thanks!

Keep at least one S3 Trio3D/2X card despite their terrible 3D capabilities, they are very underrated for DOS.

VIA C3 Nehemiah 1.2A @ 1.46 GHz | ASUS P2-99 | 256 MB PC133 SDRAM | GeForce2 GTS 32 MB | Voodoo2 12 MB | SBLive! | AWE64 | SBPro2 | GUS

Reply 53609 of 55600, by Thermalwrong

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Wes1262 wrote on 2024-07-12, 18:48:

Folks help me out save this stuff from a landfill. Do you notice anything worth keeping? (More will come.....) https://imgur.com/a/0dhPBFo I can't get everything. I don't have the space 😜 Thanks!

The fairly large gold/yellow soldermask AGP card with 8 RAM chips on the front and marking AGP-3F10 seems to be a chaintech Voodoo Banshee card, so you need that one. Beyond that there's a nice FX5200 with a chaintech logo on the fan and personally I would take that if it's cheap. And the one that others have pointed out is that Geforce 2 card with the blue heatsinks, that's a nice one.

Oh and that Matrox MGA card with the PCI interface is one I'd keep.

Reply 53610 of 55600, by rasz_pl

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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2024-07-13, 01:37:

Personally, I don't want to be lumped in with the people that would consider everything that isn't rare to be "old used tires".

Sadly thats precisely what it is, Firestone 500 tires you would find on a Pinto (https://www.wardsauto.com/ford/together-again … n-the-headlines). Cards bundled with cheapest supermarket computers aimed at home offices, students and first time uneducated buyers. Nobody was using most of those cards on purpose, you simply ended up with one before you even knew what graphic card was and what it did to your computers ability to play games 😀
Nowadays they are good for a few minutes of laughs over glitchy games at 5-10 fps. 3/4 of the collection is a who is who of
vlaskcz [Worst Game Graphics Cards] list https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0ljjj4LTDc&l … p4w4rQnr_MIab17 😀

https://github.com/raszpl/FIC-486-GAC-2-Cache-Module for AT&T Globalyst
https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16 memory board
https://github.com/raszpl/440BX Reference Design adapted to Kicad
https://github.com/raszpl/Zenith_ZBIOS MFM-300 Monitor

Reply 53611 of 55600, by Wes1262

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which one is the 3dfx banshee? please provide link to .jpg i genuinely cant tell them apart and even after googling the name i have zero clue. i get pictures of cards with the same name but that look completely different????????
only thing i can tell apart is agp from pci. i will save the pci ones. the geforce 2 hercules is a Ti. not quite an ultra but a nice card nevertheless

Reply 53612 of 55600, by Wes1262

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Thermalwrong wrote on 2024-07-13, 02:14:
Wes1262 wrote on 2024-07-12, 18:48:

Folks help me out save this stuff from a landfill. Do you notice anything worth keeping? (More will come.....) https://imgur.com/a/0dhPBFo I can't get everything. I don't have the space 😜 Thanks!

The fairly large gold/yellow soldermask AGP card with 8 RAM chips on the front and marking AGP-3F10 seems to be a chaintech Voodoo Banshee card, so you need that one. Beyond that there's a nice FX5200 with a chaintech logo on the fan and personally I would take that if it's cheap. And the one that others have pointed out is that Geforce 2 card with the blue heatsinks, that's a nice one.

Oh and that Matrox MGA card with the PCI interface is one I'd keep.

thank you, got it! that was hard to google xD if you search "voodoo banshee" you get completely different looking cards. chaintech helped
it has no bracket but i am confident it's in the box.

Reply 53613 of 55600, by Munx

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Wes1262 wrote on 2024-07-12, 20:02:
Munx wrote on 2024-07-12, 19:20:
Wes1262 wrote on 2024-07-12, 18:48:

Folks help me out save this stuff from a landfill. Do you notice anything worth keeping? (More will come.....) https://imgur.com/a/0dhPBFo I can't get everything. I don't have the space 😜 Thanks!

Matrox Mystique 220 (The PCI card at the beginning) and the cirrus logic cards are really nice to have. Trident Blade3D is a nice under-dog from the era. You also got a nice and rare 3DFX Banshee in there (the all-gold PCB and heatsink)

haha you really need to help me out with the exact links because I cant tell them apart 😜 even after a search on google. thanks!

These ones I find interesting/would keep. Not sure about the bottom-right one, but it might be a 3dfx banshee card.

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My builds!
The FireStarter 2.0 - The wooden K5
The Underdog - The budget K6
The Voodoo powerhouse - The power-hungry K7
The troll PC - The Socket 423 Pentium 4

Reply 53614 of 55600, by rasz_pl

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Munx wrote on 2024-07-13, 09:38:

These ones I find interesting/would keep. Not sure about the bottom-right one, but it might be a 3dfx banshee card.

3x trident, 2x i740, 2x matrox, all 7 in "why is nobody buying my $10 card" category

https://github.com/raszpl/FIC-486-GAC-2-Cache-Module for AT&T Globalyst
https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16 memory board
https://github.com/raszpl/440BX Reference Design adapted to Kicad
https://github.com/raszpl/Zenith_ZBIOS MFM-300 Monitor

Reply 53615 of 55600, by Wes1262

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Munx wrote on 2024-07-13, 09:38:
Wes1262 wrote on 2024-07-12, 20:02:
Munx wrote on 2024-07-12, 19:20:

Matrox Mystique 220 (The PCI card at the beginning) and the cirrus logic cards are really nice to have. Trident Blade3D is a nice under-dog from the era. You also got a nice and rare 3DFX Banshee in there (the all-gold PCB and heatsink)

haha you really need to help me out with the exact links because I cant tell them apart 😜 even after a search on google. thanks!

These ones I find interesting/would keep. Not sure about the bottom-right one, but it might be a 3dfx banshee card.

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Thank you for the help! Are these cards significantly rare or just "ok enough to keep"? (just so that I have an idea of how much I should pay for them)

Reply 53616 of 55600, by Munx

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Wes1262 wrote on 2024-07-13, 11:10:
Munx wrote on 2024-07-13, 09:38:
Wes1262 wrote on 2024-07-12, 20:02:

haha you really need to help me out with the exact links because I cant tell them apart 😜 even after a search on google. thanks!

These ones I find interesting/would keep. Not sure about the bottom-right one, but it might be a 3dfx banshee card.

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Thank you for the help! Are these cards significantly rare or just "ok enough to keep"? (just so that I have an idea of how much I should pay for them)

The 3dfx and the first Matrox cards are quite rare. The rest aren't, but are quite useful if you want to have a retro machine.

My builds!
The FireStarter 2.0 - The wooden K5
The Underdog - The budget K6
The Voodoo powerhouse - The power-hungry K7
The troll PC - The Socket 423 Pentium 4

Reply 53617 of 55600, by Trashbytes

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Does anyone else like old Lenovo Thinkpad machines ? not sure if this counts as 100% retro but its Core2 era so close enough !

Saw this W700 on Evilbay for 100 AUD and it looks really clean so I snapped it up, it needs a new battery and two new HDD caddies and a pair of SSDs but aside from that its in good nick. The caddies and covers should be super easy to get and I have a ton of spare SSDs sitting around I can throw in it.

Im not sure if the CPU can be upgraded but I have a X9000 here that may fit it, but if not then a faster T series CPU wont be hard to get either.

It really only caught my attention because of the 17" screen and full size keyboard, dont see many Thinkpads with huge screens.

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Reply 53618 of 55600, by Trashbytes

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Munx wrote on 2024-07-13, 11:34:
Wes1262 wrote on 2024-07-13, 11:10:
Munx wrote on 2024-07-13, 09:38:

These ones I find interesting/would keep. Not sure about the bottom-right one, but it might be a 3dfx banshee card.

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Thank you for the help! Are these cards significantly rare or just "ok enough to keep"? (just so that I have an idea of how much I should pay for them)

The 3dfx and the first Matrox cards are quite rare. The rest aren't, but are quite useful if you want to have a retro machine.

I wouldn't say the Matrox card is rare and neither is the 3DFXcard, they are however quite expensive for what they are and the Matrox arguably has the best 2d Image output you will find in a retro GPU, the Voodoo is only expensive due tot he 3DFX tax but aside from that its pretty run of the mill as far as Banshee cards go

The 3D Prophet II is a rather nice Geforce 2 card, worth having around.

Reply 53619 of 55600, by rasz_pl

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Wes1262 wrote on 2024-07-13, 11:10:

Are these cards significantly rare or just "ok enough to keep"? (just so that I have an idea of how much I should pay for them)

only two cards out of everything are worth paying anything, maybe ~5 others are worth not throwing away if you get them for free.

https://github.com/raszpl/FIC-486-GAC-2-Cache-Module for AT&T Globalyst
https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16 memory board
https://github.com/raszpl/440BX Reference Design adapted to Kicad
https://github.com/raszpl/Zenith_ZBIOS MFM-300 Monitor