Jasin Natael wrote on 2023-02-03, 18:18:

So I just threw out an offer on a MX440 on the evil bay. I only wanted the card as the only ones that I have are OEM 64bit garb […]
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So I just threw out an offer on a MX440 on the evil bay.
I only wanted the card as the only ones that I have are OEM 64bit garbage, and this one seemed to be 128bit judging by the amount of chips on the card.
I haven't received the card but I did some research on the model as provided by the seller and it seems that this card was clocked near or the same as the somewhat elusive MX460
(280 clock/520 effective memory)
Not that it's valuable or anything, but it does seem to be rather unusual.
I have never heard of Prolink before, other than a Vogons thread referencing a review of a similar model.
Anyone have one of these?

Here is the site that I pulled the specs from, no pic included.
https://www.gpuzoo.com/GPU-PixelView/MVGA-NVG … X440-8X128.html

The link with the review
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1241

The thread with the reference to the review
Re: Equivalent of a GeForce2 GTS?

And the other thread where RetroSpector seems to have ran across a few of their cards as well.
MX440 differences (bus / mem bus / mem type / clocks)

Seems to match the specs on their website - https://web.archive.org/web/20031212044157/ht … 28M-VIO-DVI.htm

PC Hoarder Patrol wrote on 2023-02-03, 21:55:

Jasin Natael wrote on 2023-02-03, 18:18:

So I just threw out an offer on a MX440 on the evil bay. I only wanted the card as the only ones that I have are OEM 64bit garb […]
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So I just threw out an offer on a MX440 on the evil bay.
I only wanted the card as the only ones that I have are OEM 64bit garbage, and this one seemed to be 128bit judging by the amount of chips on the card.
I haven't received the card but I did some research on the model as provided by the seller and it seems that this card was clocked near or the same as the somewhat elusive MX460
(280 clock/520 effective memory)
Not that it's valuable or anything, but it does seem to be rather unusual.
I have never heard of Prolink before, other than a Vogons thread referencing a review of a similar model.
Anyone have one of these?

Here is the site that I pulled the specs from, no pic included.
https://www.gpuzoo.com/GPU-PixelView/MVGA-NVG … X440-8X128.html

The link with the review
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1241

The thread with the reference to the review
Re: Equivalent of a GeForce2 GTS?

And the other thread where RetroSpector seems to have ran across a few of their cards as well.
MX440 differences (bus / mem bus / mem type / clocks)

Seems to match the specs on their website - https://web.archive.org/web/20031212044157/ht … 28M-VIO-DVI.htm

Yeah I found that too. I am bit conflicted as it shows a few different models in both 64 MB and 128MB, but it doesn't say which cards have the faster core and memory clocks.
Oh well, it doesn't really matter I just thought it was curious that they bothered to make such higher clocked versions. If they were capable of the MX460 speeds then why not just sell them as such?
I guess the MX460 was such a poor value that no one buying them anyway so the lower clocked 440 was more likely to sell.

It is only a slight memory oc over 440 AGP 8x standard. Still below 460, which in its time had to have GDDR.

Putas wrote on 2023-02-06, 08:44:

It is only a slight memory oc over 440 AGP 8x standard. Still below 460, which in its time had to have GDDR.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think the reference MX460 had 300mhz core/225(550 effective) memory.
I keep finding different conflicting results for the Pixel View card but from I see it is clocked 300mhz core speed, instead the reference 270 and depending on the model the memory clocks are either 520/550. So that is either extremely close to the MX460 or dead on the same.
It should perform nearly identically, or identically.

Again it's not a super rare or desirable card or anything, but it's certainly cheaper than trying to buy a Medion or MSI OEM MX460.
I gave 15 bucks shipped.

For one of the best DX7 cards available that is a good deal I think.

I had like 15 different MX440. Some of them already sold, but ran benchmarks, or at least identified clocks in HWinfo, and several programs, and takes some notes.
I have 2 of this Prolink Pixelviews MX440, one MX400. And yes, some of them are factory overclocked. They differ also in memory chips used. Some are using best chips like Samsung -4ns, and other ones -5ns. I have one MX440 (MSI version) that has even 3.6ns memory. And this is exactly version, that was recommended by reviewers like Xbitlabs... to get 3.6ns ones, that can be basically raised to MX460 level.

520 clocks on memory is nothing. Good MX440-8x gets to 300/600 trust me. It's even in many roundsup, lots of them managed to get at 300 mhz clock at memories, and they were recommended.

Also one note... there were 2 version of MX440... one original, called MX440, and second one refresh, that was MX440-8x. For later, 250mhz was reference, not 200. So 280 is not a lot. Lots of -4ns memory chips are capable overclock to 280. I would use almost all of them. As it is only about 12% overclock.

So you are speaking about nothing extraordinary, out here to happen. Most of MX440-8x was able to reach MX460 clocks.

There were more versions of Prolink Pixelview MX440 (different PCB, etc)... some of them had base clocks, some of them were overclock. Prolink Pixelview was one of the better manufacturers... they often did factory overclocked versions.
Like here you have one version with smaller memory chips. Not sure, if it is DDR2, but different PCB.
download/file.php?mode=view&id=157639

Not only Prolink did this. Gainward had also lots of versions, like Power pack Pro 600 , and golden samples. The higher ones used better memory chips, and were factory overclocked.

The one you've got is 128-bit, no fear.

I have one of these https://www.pcstats.com/articles/1241/index.html and honestly it's great for dx6-7 9x gaming.
It beats all of my FX5200 64bit and 128bit in early gaming performance (eg 3dmark 2000-2001SE scores). It even comes close to overclocked 128bit FX5600XT.

So it seems Prolink/Pixelview definitely had a wide variety of MX440 SKUs back then.

GeorgeMan wrote on 2023-02-16, 10:14:

I have one of these https://www.pcstats.com/articles/1241/index.html and honestly it's great for dx6-7 9x gaming.
It beats all of my FX5200 64bit and 128bit in early gaming performance (eg 3dmark 2000-2001SE scores). It even comes close to overclocked 128bit FX5600XT.

So it seems Prolink/Pixelview definitely had a wide variety of MX440 SKUs back then.

FX5200 wasn't about rising pure performance. But about to finally give old MX budget line DX8.1 compatibility, and newer games performance boost through vertex shader. Of course when you compare 300/275 clocks and 250/200 and you don't use vertex shader advantage, first card will be faster, because it has 30% faster clocks. You need to compare overclocked version to overclocked version, not overclocked to reference.

W.x. wrote on 2023-02-18, 17:27:

GeorgeMan wrote on 2023-02-16, 10:14:

I have one of these https://www.pcstats.com/articles/1241/index.html and honestly it's great for dx6-7 9x gaming.
It beats all of my FX5200 64bit and 128bit in early gaming performance (eg 3dmark 2000-2001SE scores). It even comes close to overclocked 128bit FX5600XT.

So it seems Prolink/Pixelview definitely had a wide variety of MX440 SKUs back then.

FX5200 wasn't about rising pure performance. But about to finally give old MX budget line DX8.1 compatibility, and newer games performance boost through vertex shader. Of course when you compare 300/275 clocks and 250/200 and you don't use vertex shader advantage, first card will be faster, because it has 30% faster clocks. You need to compare overclocked version to overclocked version, not overclocked to reference.

Yes of course I understand this, but even if I over clock my FX5200s, even putting a fan blowing on them directly, they can't beat it no matter what in early gaming performance.
Oh and I also have another "MX480E" (MX440 128bit) from Albatron that overclocks roughly to the same level, so it's definitely not Pixelview-specific