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First post, by cloverskull

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Hey friends, can someone recommend a proper modern PSU that is as close to ideal for a retro build as possible? In this case I'm targeting a S7 rig but in general I'm curious what folks would recommend. I'm a bit PSU ignorant so am not sure how much wattage is required for a retro PC but also how much power on the different voltage rails is needed. Thanks!

Reply 1 of 6, by quigonhu

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You probably need a power supply provides -5v. Unfortunately most of the modern PSUs cancel this line.
And you probably need a PSU provides as many Molex D4 connectors as more. Which also hard to find on most of the modern PSU.

My suggestion is to find some 2nd hand -- of course if you could buy a brand new one, that's better --industrial PSUs, such as Advantech's PSU, which is OEMed by FSP.

You will get such as the -5v supply, 6 or more D4 connectors, 6 or more SATA connecters, 2 4-pin power supply for the CPU, sometimes 2 8-pin power supply for the graphic cards, and the decent power supply efficiency.

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Reply 2 of 6, by dominusprog

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Well, it depends on your build. Some ISA cards like Sound Blaster 2 need -5 volts. You can use any modern power supply, and for the -5V you'll need a converter like Voltage Blaster.

https://www.philscomputerlab.com/voltage-blaster--5v.html

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Reply 3 of 6, by Mondodimotori

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cloverskull wrote on 2024-12-01, 23:34:

Hey friends, can someone recommend a proper modern PSU that is as close to ideal for a retro build as possible? In this case I'm targeting a S7 rig but in general I'm curious what folks would recommend. I'm a bit PSU ignorant so am not sure how much wattage is required for a retro PC but also how much power on the different voltage rails is needed. Thanks!

Oh boy, that's could be a conundrum depending on your build.
If your sistem doesn't pull much wattage from the 3.3 and 5V line, you coulod get away with a modern PSU (I use one in a Pentium 3 system).
But if you wanna go with a power hungry sistem on those lines (like an Athlon build without CPU power connector), you either find a modern top of the line PSU that can provide at least 25+ amps on those lines (usually those that are rated for more than a 1000W), or you gamble on a used one. And, trust me, it's a gamble to get a 20 years old used PSU.

Reply 4 of 6, by Gmlb256

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Focus on getting a PSU that has at least 20A on the +5v rail and if the (Super) Socket 7 motherboard is in AT form factor lacking the ATX power connector, look for an ATX to AT adapter.

I wouldn't worry much about the -5v rail, it is only needed for certain of ISA cards that the OP is unlikely to have.

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Reply 5 of 6, by Cosmic

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I've used FSP Dagger Pro PSUs in a Super Socket 7 and a Slot 1 system without issue. I like these PSUs because they're meant for compact builds, so they leave more room in old cases for cable management. Never had a problem with noise or voltages.

They have a couple Molex and a couple SATA connectors - I just adapt the SATA to Molex then connect a Molex splitter to provide as many Molex connectors as needed for the build. This gives me a modern quiet PSU with plenty of legacy connectors.

Regarding -5V, like has already been mentioned, this is usually only needed for some older ISA sound cards. I didn't need it for a regular SB16 (CT2290), AWE32, or AWE64 cards. -5V can also be added any time if you have a free ISA slot using a Voltage Blaster.

Lastly, you didn't ask about Athlon XP but that's one other platform where PSU selection is important - it relied heavily on +5V. With a powerful XP chip and AGP GPU you might want 30+ amps on +5V. For this reason I tend to use period correct PSUs on XP builds since modern builds and PSUs put more power on +12V instead. Anyway, this doesn't apply to Socket 7, just notes for future readers.

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Reply 6 of 6, by cloverskull

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Thanks for the feedback, folks! So, hopefully I've been overthinking this and one of my PSUs that are currently unused but semi-new should work. I appreciate everyone's comments.