ElectroSoldier wrote on 2024-08-30, 01:53:

The CPU would be a good choice.
Should be able to run a GTX 750 too

Nope. PCIe 16x has room only for single slot card. So it works with K1200, but GTX 750 is no go, without a modded cooler.

The Serpent Rider wrote on 2024-08-30, 20:31:

ElectroSoldier wrote on 2024-08-30, 01:53:

The CPU would be a good choice.
Should be able to run a GTX 750 too

Nope. PCIe 16x has room only for single slot card. So it works with K1200, but GTX 750 is no go, without a modded cooler.

So not a very good option then?
Is this something you have found online or could recommend because you have had one, now or in the past?

I just took a look on google, which is how I assume you found it too?
By the looks of it the video card is not only single slot its slot is right next to the PSU, so the video cards intake fan would be trying to suck air through the wall of the PSU.

And this is a possible system?

Single-slot and low-profile compatible GTX 750s did exist and were very common in the Asian market, so you can easily get them on Amazon and eBay.

There are several very common systems that are compatible with the dual slot low profile GTX 750Ti.
I have mentioned the HP Elite 8300 is one, the Z230 is another. (not 100% sure if the Z230 has XP drivers, but it can use a 750Ti).

ElectroSoldier wrote on 2024-08-31, 07:44:

So not a very good option then?

Once again, we return to the name of this topic - smallest computer. Standard 4 slot brandname SFF does not provide anything interesting that custom PC couldn't do.

By the way there were a couple of posts on Hackaday about getting a 1x PCIe broken out of a laptop by various means, wifi slot and expresscard. Those don't get you beyond "fastest 32bit PCI card" kind of horsepower, 'coz of bandwidth being same ballpark, but it's interesting to think about. Half of those might work on the slotless ITX boards or those other 100mm boards with mini PCIe or something.

I still haven't figured out if the Thinkpad T400 I've got has a hardware or software problem, acts weird, maybe I should try XP on that, seems like it would be good early to mid XP with the radeon graphics, not quite sure where the uniqueness of XP really ends and you can use Win7 but thinking about what, 2008, and it's prolly good to there unless you want a lot of pixels.

The Serpent Rider wrote on 2024-08-31, 19:10:

ElectroSoldier wrote on 2024-08-31, 07:44:

So not a very good option then?

Once again, we return to the name of this topic - smallest computer. Standard 4 slot brandname SFF does not provide anything interesting that custom PC couldn't do.

Yes but that isnt the name of the topic.
Its the smallest computer with a video card (paraphrase)

As I have already stated the smallest would be something like an HP ProDesk 600 G2 Mini.
I know there are drivers for these because I have done it and they are twice as small as an HP T730 Thin Client PC.

But they dont have addin video cards.

So then you come to the SFF cases which are all pretty much the same size. There really isnt so much between them, which means you are no longer looking for size but options, by which I mean you would be better off with an SFF PC that offers the use of a dual slot PCIe graphics card over one that doesnt because the size is going to be meer millimetres larger but with far more functionality.

A custom PC couldnt do anything a SFF PC from a large OEM can do, and those large OEM PCs would be cheaper,

Don't know if it helps, but I have XP running very well on a HP dc7800.

The only thing with these computers is they can overheat and freeze if the fan is left at the default minimum setting. Go into the bios and bump up the speed to about half way.

Robbbert wrote on 2024-09-01, 12:16:

Don't know if it helps, but I have XP running very well on a HP dc7800.

The only thing with these computers is they can overheat and freeze if the fan is left at the default minimum setting. Go into the bios and bump up the speed to about half way.

Those UltraSlims are awesome!
I have one and a GTX 260m card waiting to go in it but I cant find a cooler to sit on the video card 🙁

Forget if this has been posted, but it's possibly a gem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OdwzXrmXlA

Newish, cheaplow power Radeon with xp drivers because it's basically a 15yo core.

Prices are all over the place (Low-WTFH?!) for those AMD OEM cards and they run very hot, due to cheap cooling and being over-powered.

Yeah, prices are whack.
As for power, it runs off the slot, and can be underclocked easy enough.

For xp, it should basically be the fastest card in existence though. Even underclocked, I can't imagine it struggling

Cheapest I can find it on ebay is £57.
You would be better looking at the GTX 750Ti, it performs much better and there is a dubious looking single slot cooler version on ebay.
If anybody is brave enough to splash some cash on that pink thing let us know how it performs.

myne wrote on 2024-09-04, 10:36:

Forget if this has been posted, but it's possibly a gem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OdwzXrmXlA

Newish, cheaplow power Radeon with xp drivers because it's basically a 15yo core.

AMD Radeon R7 450 OEM
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon- … 7-450-oem.c2890

Basically a Radeon HD 7750 with 925 MHz GPU clock (instead of 800MHz) and a 2nd GB of memory.

R7 450 runs 1.225V on Vcore vs 1.050V on FirePro V4100 with practically the same cooler. Very toasty.

Hoping wrote on 2024-06-22, 20:45:

On the other hand, I already received the Quadro K620 and has exceeded my expectations at the moment with 20539 points in 3DMark […]
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On the other hand, I already received the Quadro K620 and has exceeded my expectations at the moment with 20539 points in 3DMark 2006 and a minimum of 70 fps and a maximum of 232 fps in FEAR with a resolution of 1280x1024 and the entire configuration to the maximum, AA X4, Aniso X16.
I still want to try more things with the drivers since I used a driver that I found on the Internet that did not even had the HDMI audio driver.
Temperatures are quite good at the moment with a maximum of 67 degrees celsius with the case closed.
Thank you very much to @Ozzunej for the suggestion of the K620.
Edit: I paid 30€ shiping included for the K620, by far, more reasonable than the prices of the 750.

Hi Hoping,

I happen to deal with the same board at the moment and trying to install Windows XP 32bit. But whatever I do I always get the blue screen at the end of installation (loading drivers I guess). Whatever I do I just can't make it work.
How was your installation? Did you do any "magic tricks" or was it straightforward as it should be? 😀 I am just going crazy and start to thing that my board might be faulty.

thx
classicVGA

classicvga wrote on 2024-09-05, 15:39:

Hi Hoping, […]
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Hi Hoping,

I happen to deal with the same board at the moment and trying to install Windows XP 32bit. But whatever I do I always get the blue screen at the end of installation (loading drivers I guess). Whatever I do I just can't make it work.
How was your installation? Did you do any "magic tricks" or was it straightforward as it should be? 😀 I am just going crazy and start to thing that my board might be faulty.

thx
classicVGA

I added the drivers for SATA in AHCI mode to the XP installation CD using nLite. I did not try to install in IDE mode. I did nothing else.

I added the drivers for SATA in AHCI mode to the XP installation CD using nLite. I did not try to install in IDE mode. I did nothing else.
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Thx! I will try that. BTW. did you install from USB or CD?
So far I only tried IDE mode which I've never had any issues but here it just didn't work for some reason.

cheers
classicVGA

classicvga wrote on 2024-09-05, 16:51:

Thx! I will try that. BTW. did you install from USB or CD? So far I only tried IDE mode which I've never had any issues but here […]
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Thx! I will try that. BTW. did you install from USB or CD?
So far I only tried IDE mode which I've never had any issues but here it just didn't work for some reason.

cheers
classicVGA

Used the CD, never installed XP from USB, neither cared about that.

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Used the CD, never installed XP from USB, neither cared about that.
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Thx Hoping! Adding SATA drivers to ISO did the trick. Now I have fully functional low power WindowsXP system with GTX 750Ti 😀

Thx again for help.

classicVGA