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First post, by kolmio

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Hi all,

Wikipedia says that InWin brand of PC chassis existed since 1985. But I only saw them in ATX form factor - almost iconic A500, H500 and alike.

Can anyone share some knowledge about InWin-branded BabyAT or other non-ATX 90s PC cases?

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Reply 1 of 8, by Horun

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If you haven't looked at their web archives, here is from 2000 and shows AT cases. Some like G500 are same as A500 but AT style...
http://web.archive.org/web/20000226203037/htt … e/products.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20000312061456/htt … ode/atcase.html
and you might find this interesting: http://web.archive.org/web/20001208104700/htt … ino_t515cb.html
in-win.com.tw http://web.archive.org/web/20010623175624/htt … code/index.html
has mostly same stuff and could not find much else from late 90's....
added: some like the IW-S506 work as both ATX and baby AT... https://web.archive.org/web/20010701053238/ht … e/ino_s506.html

added more: back in mid-90's thru late 2000's Enlight was a very popular case company in my area. Their web archives are fairly good for looking at 1998 AT cases.
some examples: http://web.archive.org/web/19980703014130/htt … oducts/6562.htm = AT mini tower
AT/LPX Slimline: http://web.archive.org/web/19980703014200/htt … oducts/6317.htm
another AT mini tower: http://web.archive.org/web/19980703014055/htt … ts/6552mini.htm

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Reply 2 of 8, by Anonymous Coward

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I don't really remember seeing Inwin cases before 1995. Is it possible they were founded in 1985, but their business was in something else?
After the ATX standard was introduced, the Inwin A500 and S500 were all over the place. They made AT versions that largely looked the same.

Enlight was also very popular all throughout the 90s. I think they were even fairly popular in the mid-late 80s.
Enlight cases and power supplies were pretty good, but in my opinion the sheet metal used in the Inwins was even better. A lot of the Inwins also tended to rely on proprietary drive rails, which is annoying if you don't have them.

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Reply 3 of 8, by VivienM

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Anonymous Coward wrote on 2024-08-19, 01:47:

Enlight was also very popular all throughout the 90s. I think they were even fairly popular in the mid-late 80s.
Enlight cases and power supplies were pretty good, but in my opinion the sheet metal used in the Inwins was even better. A lot of the Inwins also tended to rely on proprietary drive rails, which is annoying if you don't have them.

Enlight 7237 was everywhere in the early early 2000s. I used one for a P4 build in late 2001 and... well, by that point, it was behind its prime.

I got the impression that Antec and some others largely replaced Enlight/Inwin/etc within a year or two after that.

My theory: Enlight/Inwin/others were really selling cases (including a PSU that was preinstalled) to clone shops, i.e. the type of places where people (and not necessarily enthusiasts but potentially Joe Schmoe off the street) walked in, handed over their money, and some person would get out their screwdriver and assemble their computer. I think starting in the early 2000s, that market just shrank and shrank and shrank to the point that in 2024, there are nearly no motherboard/cases/etc for that market. Instead, enthusiasts building their own systems came to make up a larger and larger share of the market, and they demanded things that the generic clone shop system didn't need - enhanced cooling options, ease of opening (that Enlight 7237 was stupid... you had to pop off the front bezel before removing the side panel, IIRC), more front-panel I/O options, easier to install drives, no bundled PSU, etc.

Reply 4 of 8, by Anonymous Coward

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Not sure about Inwin, but Enlight definitely had some pretty big customers in the early 90s. DTK pretty much used them exclusively. Not sure how popular "J Bond" was for pre-assembled PCs, but they used Enlight too. I'd have to go through some old magazines to make a list. Then you also had big companies that ordered cases with a custom bezel. It's harder to tell who made those unless you can find some markings inside.
I think a combination of things made Enlight less popular (are they still around?). One of the big ones was OEMs moving their production from Taiwan to China to take advantage of cheap labour. Some Taiwanese companies setup facilities in the mainland, but others just gave up. Then in the mid-late 90s a whole bunch of computer companies went bust, leaving only a handful of players like Dell, Gateway, HP etc. So Enlight would have had a much smaller pool of potential OEM customers. Finally, you had the trend towards laptops and mobile devices, at which point only "gamers" would build their own PCs. I don't really recall Enlight making much effort to appeal to that market.
Enlight sort of hard the market cornered in the early days. I guess when the market shrank and things got more competitive they just couldn't be bothered and folded or branched off into something else.

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Reply 5 of 8, by BitWrangler

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I have a vague idea that Enlight tried to pivot into the external drive case market, but then just got swamped by the cheapies.

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Reply 6 of 8, by Unknown_K

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I would bet you need to crank out cases by the millions to make decent money, so you basically reuse the same style internals with some cosmetic changes to the faceplates until the style is no longer sellable.

The construction of my old Enlight desktop AT cases isn't that much different from the ATX versions. The Enlight 7237 somebody mention was barely updated to include front USB ports when that was popular (I have a few in black).

Once OEM cases went so cheap there was no money in making them and gamer cases came out with cable management, plastic Windows, and tons of big fans most of the old cases makers could no longer use the old designs.

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Reply 8 of 8, by kolmio

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Horun wrote on 2024-08-18, 18:58:

If you haven't looked at their web archives, here is from 2000 and shows AT cases. Some like G500 are same as A500 but AT style...
http://web.archive.org/web/20000226203037/htt … e/products.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20000312061456/htt … ode/atcase.html

Many thanks!

That's surprising to be honest. They look quite cool and non-typically minimalist for the time, and I believe I never saw these in the wild!
Perhaps they were pricey, because they feature some advanced modular structure and advertised as quality products. That's why they were a rarity 😀)

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