Title says it all. I bought what was called a 2010 mid mac pro. It came with no hdd.
I can install linux and windows 10 on it.
But when I try to install os10 leopard retail, the computer shuts off my mouse and keyboard and does nothing.
I went online and found a thread on some website that linked to a bootable version of os leapord but it did not work.
Does anyone here have any insight or advise?
Sure - macOS (formerly Mac OS X) supports the hardware available on its release date and Leopard was released on October 26, 2007. Therefore it does not support hardware from 2010, as by then Snow Leopard was already out. For Macs that ship between OS updates, you will still need an up-to-date install disc, so while your Mac Pro may be supported by Snow Leopard, you can only use build versions that the hardware would have initially shipped with (or later). For example, if your system shipped originally with Mac OS X 10.6.5, then older versions like 10.6.4 or 10.6.3 wouldn't work, even though they're technically the same operating system. Hence, you need to have at least the operating system that your system originally shipped with.
If you want to play it safe, you can go with Mac OS X 10.7.x (Lion), since that was released on July 1, 2011 - and thus should be up-to-date enough for your Mac Pro.
I was having some issue like this once and the solution was to do an internet recovery install. Once it had downloaded and installed an OS, I was able to upgrade to the latest version supported.
"We do these things not because they are easy, but because we thought they would be easy."
Probably easiest to install the latest compatible macOS (Sierra or maybe High Sierra) or the earliest (so the one that was available on the day of the hardware release).
In the case of High Sierra, however, prepare for a world of install pains:
- the image for HS is hard to get for some unknown reason (you can only get it via the App Store from an earlier macOS version, earlier macOS versions can be downloaded directly)
- once you get it you need to boot from the image but make sure your mac is not connected to the internet and you need to set its date to before October 24 2018 - reason is that the certificate of the installer is out of date and thus won't install 😀 (I've just sold two old macs from around 2010/2011 and to wipe everything I needed to reinstall and ran into these issues 😀)
Also, I have a 2011 MacBook Pro where I used the DosDude patch to install Catalina. The process was → new hard drive → internet recovery install → allow it to finish all upgrades → then use the DosDude patch to install Catalina.
"We do these things not because they are easy, but because we thought they would be easy."
Update. I got lion installed but the system was fairly useless even after updating. The default browser did not work so I had to download the firefox installer for mac on my pc and transfer it over.
The internet works but I wanted to use the mini dp port on the video card (hd5870) to connect to my main monitor. No dice.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Update. I got lion installed but the system was fairly useless even after updating. The default browser did not work so I had to download the firefox installer for mac on my pc and transfer it over.
The internet works but I wanted to use the mini dp port on the video card (hd5870) to connect to my main monitor. No dice.
Does anyone have any ideas?
I just assumed that you needed a really old version of macOS for a specific reason, since you were talking about Leopard (10.5) in your original post.
Based on this info-page, your system will run macOS Mojave (10.14) as well, which is also the last version of macOS that supports both 32- and 64-bit binaries.
Mojave should allow you to run much more up-to-date software and would have other benefits as well, but maybe before we get into how you can install that, is there something specifically that you want this Mac Pro to actually do, besides output image via the DP on the Radeon?
leonardowrote on 2024-06-08, 21:11:I just assumed that you needed a really old version of macOS for a specific reason, since you were talking about Leopard (10.5) […] Show full quote
Update. I got lion installed but the system was fairly useless even after updating. The default browser did not work so I had to download the firefox installer for mac on my pc and transfer it over.
The internet works but I wanted to use the mini dp port on the video card (hd5870) to connect to my main monitor. No dice.
Does anyone have any ideas?
I just assumed that you needed a really old version of macOS for a specific reason, since you were talking about Leopard (10.5) in your original post.
Based on this info-page, your system will run macOS Mojave (10.14) as well, which is also the last version of macOS that supports both 32- and 64-bit binaries.
Mojave should allow you to run much more up-to-date software and would have other benefits as well, but maybe before we get into how you can install that, is there something specifically that you want this Mac Pro to actually do, besides output image via the DP on the Radeon?
To be honest I have no specific use for this machine other than to see what I can do with it. One of my coworkers owns a mac and is really clueless when it comes to using a pc, and I was curious about the differences.
For some reason that patch does nothing. I watched the video on the website and did what he did but nothing happens when opening the patch.
I've no suggestions - I've used it on two different laptops, the previously mentioned MacBook and a mid 2010 MacBook Unibody and in both cases it worked as advertised and successfully upgraded both machines to Catalina, but I've never tried it with a desktop machine. My hunch is that there's almost certainly a way to make it work, but I could be wrong.
"We do these things not because they are easy, but because we thought they would be easy."
For some reason that patch does nothing. I watched the video on the website and did what he did but nothing happens when opening the patch.
I've no suggestions - I've used it on two different laptops, the previously mentioned MacBook and a mid 2010 MacBook Unibody and in both cases it worked as advertised and successfully upgraded both machines to Catalina, but I've never tried it with a desktop machine. My hunch is that there's almost certainly a way to make it work, but I could be wrong.
Thanks but I even tried to just download the update from the apple website and it came up as corrupted.
I think I will just call it a lost cause and install linux. Hardware wise it is good but apple to my mind sucks donkey balls.
Update the mousewheel works in reverse in macos and I cannot get hirens boot disk
to work at all
tannerstevowrote on 2024-06-09, 18:42:Thanks but I even tried to just download the update from the apple website and it came up as corrupted.
I think I will just call […] Show full quote
For some reason that patch does nothing. I watched the video on the website and did what he did but nothing happens when opening the patch.
I've no suggestions - I've used it on two different laptops, the previously mentioned MacBook and a mid 2010 MacBook Unibody and in both cases it worked as advertised and successfully upgraded both machines to Catalina, but I've never tried it with a desktop machine. My hunch is that there's almost certainly a way to make it work, but I could be wrong.
Thanks but I even tried to just download the update from the apple website and it came up as corrupted.
I think I will just call it a lost cause and install linux. Hardware wise it is good but apple to my mind sucks donkey balls.
Update the mousewheel works in reverse in macos and I cannot get hirens boot disk
to work at all
OK... there's a lot of advice floating about that goes way beyond the required difficulty. Why are we playing with really obsolete install DVDs or hacked/modified versions of unsupported operating systems at all?
All you need to do, is download the installer package for macOS Mojave (now that you have Lion up and running), insert a USB storage media of at least 8 gigabytes, and then use the following command to create an installer:
In the above, diskname implies the name of the volume that appears on the desktop when you connect the storage device. You can then reboot your Mac while holding the Alt-button down on your keyboard to select the boot media and run the installer for Mojave. Erase the hard disk using Disk Utility from the main menu before choosing it as the target for the install, and you're good to go.
If you miss your Linux CLI tools, install Xcode and then MacPorts and you'll be able to download and compile a lot of stuff you'd otherwise have to hunt down precompiled.
As for the mouse wheel direction, you can reverse it in System Preferences. The default setting is intended for Apple's own mouse and it mimics the scrolling direction from touch devices like your phone etc. If you have a traditional mouse, it will no doubt put you off unless you alter the setting.
Mojave is also the system you want if you intend to play games for example, as it is the last version to support 32-bit games on Steam.
Apple's platform is a lot like Nintendo's in a sense. The added value is specifically provided by their own first party applications and frameworks, as well as some amazing exclusive third party applications. If you don't use any of those, Linux or Windows may in fact be a better choice on this rig. That's just my 5 cents.
This thread motivated me to do something I've been meaning to do for some time - use Bootcamp to install Win10 on my MacBook. That was my intention when I upgraded the hard drive to a one TB SSD; I wanted to have each partition at 500 gigs, but I don't use this thing that much, so I got as far as installing Catalina and quit. But I could have used a laptop that haw Win10 on it the other day, and I gave my Windows laptop to my cousin when I got this one.
I began by watching a tutorial video, but I immediately ran into a problem with the optical drive not detecting the Win10 DVD. Turned out that the optical drive now wouldn't detect any CDs or DVDs. No problem, I see that Bootcamp can also use the Win10 files if you download them. But on my computer Bootcamp wasn't offering this option? Turns out that only works on computers that do not have optical drives! So I had to stop and take it apart and clean out the DVD drive. Luckily blowing out the dust took care of it, and it could then detect and read the Win10 disk and it began to proceed with the installation normally.
As I don't have much experience with Apple products (I've only ever used the ones I've gotten for free) I still find some really simple things to be a challenge. "Choose between OSX and Windows by holding down the Option key while powering on." "Okay, which key is the Option key!? Oh look at that, I guess it would be the key that says "Option!" Sorting out how the trackpad work in Windows is taking some getting used to, but so far things are looking pretty good. I would like to set it so that it defaults to booting to Catalina, I don't yet know if that's possible.
This did the trick:
"We do these things not because they are easy, but because we thought they would be easy."
Intel486dx33wrote on 2024-06-10, 14:24:First install Mojave as it upgrades the firmware.
Make a Mojave bootable USB and boot off it. It will upgrade the firmware first […] Show full quote
First install Mojave as it upgrades the firmware.
Make a Mojave bootable USB and boot off it. It will upgrade the firmware first then reboot.
Mojave is the last supported OS for the 2010 Mac Pro.
My supposition would be that this must have happened with my MacBook when I used the Internet Recovery to install an OS after I replaced the hard drive. After wasting much time trying to prepare an ISO and use a USB drive, I connected an ethernet cable and did option-command-R and away it went. I then realized what a great thing this is, and an underappreciated bonus that you get with Apple products.
"We do these things not because they are easy, but because we thought they would be easy."
Intel486dx33wrote on 2024-06-10, 14:24:First install Mojave as it upgrades the firmware.
Make a Mojave bootable USB and boot off it. It will upgrade the firmware first […] Show full quote
First install Mojave as it upgrades the firmware.
Make a Mojave bootable USB and boot off it. It will upgrade the firmware first then reboot.
Mojave is the last supported OS for the 2010 Mac Pro.
My supposition would be that this must have happened with my MacBook when I used the Internet Recovery to install an OS after I replaced the hard drive. After wasting much time trying to prepare an ISO and use a USB drive, I connected an ethernet cable and did option-command-R and away it went. I then realized what a great thing this is, and an underappreciated bonus that you get with Apple products.
There's a lot of nifty stuff that people unfamiliar to Apple hardware just don't know about - and many day-to-day users never have to find out.
Another case in point: Target Disk Mode
System no longer booting or getting stuck? Need to rescue your data? Just plug in a FireWire cable between two Macs (Thunderbolt on the newer ones) and hold T while starting the computer. It basically becomes an external hard disk. It's a firmware level feature, so even if your OS is completely hosed for whatever reason, you can most of the time salvage your data (or go in and do troubleshooting) while the system is in an unbootable state. That is, if primary storage device failure isn't the reason...
