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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 54860 of 55583, by Antieon

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2006 called, asked if I wanted a New Old Stock case for $18... couldn't say no.

Reply 54861 of 55583, by PcBytes

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Welp, so much for me trying to get OPPainter's settings to work on my KG7-RAID 🤣.
I likely need some VERY GOOD RAM sticks, as it seems not even switching to 2GB worth of ADATA Vitesta + Corsair ValueRAM (both which were absolute ROCK SOLID on two NF7 boards).

That, or I really have no idea why they don't work. The only thing that has ever changed since I found the guide was switching from a 100FSB Athlon 1GHz to a 133FSB Athlon 1.13GHz.

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98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 54862 of 55583, by BitWrangler

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I think you want something like Samsung TCC3 or TCCD for these, what nForce preferred was different somehow to what Via and everything else AMD liked. That's why it's not very well known that these boards will run fast, they came out along with the first of the DDR RAM which was DDR200 really, and overclocked at 266, so going much harder on it wasn't going to end well... then when everyone had moved onto the new shiny there were a few guys messing around with much better RAM in them and coming up with these tricks.

edit: you might want to look at BIOS dates too, something around the time of that OC Workbench post should be okay, but IDK what they might have updated to break it after. Though I must have been running a fairly late one on my KG7 lite, because I was doing it with a thoroughbred.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 54863 of 55583, by PcBytes

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I have about ONE release higher than the one used in the OCW post - mine POSTs with the 5W string. I have yet to update to the latest.

I'm unable to use a T-Bred though, due to XPs requring registered ECC RAM at all costs (or so I was told by this review of the board ) which I currently can't get.

I also wonder if I should ditch the GF4 Ti4200 and maybe switch to a Radeon 9600 or heck, even 9700 Pro.

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98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 54864 of 55583, by BitWrangler

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I'm reading that as saying he thinks it's a weird fault with his example of the board, because it's not happening for anyone else.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 54865 of 55583, by nuno14272

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New stuff i bought this october:

Expertdata 4044
Asus PVI-486sp3
Not sgure.. cirrus logic graphic card.

1| 386DX40
2| P200mmx, Voodoo 1
3| PIII-450, Voodoo 3 3000

Reply 54866 of 55583, by G-X

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Antieon wrote on 2024-10-24, 17:32:

2006 called, asked if I wanted a New Old Stock case for $18... couldn't say no.

Neat. Didn't know NZXT had been around since that long.

Nexxen wrote on 2024-10-23, 21:06:

Complete 939 system for 10€
Athlon 64 X2 4800+ and 4 gigs of ram.

Absolute steal. You got the fastest x2 cpu for the platform. What board was it?

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Reply 54867 of 55583, by Nexxen

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G-X wrote on 2024-10-25, 10:40:
Nexxen wrote on 2024-10-23, 21:06:

Complete 939 system for 10€
Athlon 64 X2 4800+ and 4 gigs of ram.

Absolute steal. You got the fastest x2 cpu for the platform. What board was it?

ASUS A8N5X -- not great.
110W for this cpu, but I have plenty of heat pipes to make it work flawlessly.
PSU is a no brand with a 20 to 24 adapter "waiting to blow up" and "my soul weights more than this" price bracket.

PC#1 Pentium 233 MMX - 98SE
PC#2 PIII-1Ghz - 98SE/W2K

Reply 54868 of 55583, by Trashbytes

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Got this beautiful Slo1 board, a Soyo SY-6BA+ III which should be one hell of an overclocking board if all the reviews are to be believed.

Likely paid too much for it but I doubt Ill ever have another slot 1 board with this many options for Overclocking. Comes with a Slotket and CPU, I think its a 466 Mendicino which I will change to a nice 600E Coppermine and likely a new Slotket since IIRC MS6905 Ver 1.1 doesn't support Coppermine. (I have a 800 I can try as well thats also 100FSB)

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Reply 54869 of 55583, by ciornyi

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Trashbytes wrote on 2024-10-25, 14:18:
Got this beautiful Slo1 board, a Soyo SY-6BA+ III which should be one hell of an overclocking board if all the reviews are to be […]
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Got this beautiful Slo1 board, a Soyo SY-6BA+ III which should be one hell of an overclocking board if all the reviews are to be believed.

Likely paid too much for it but I doubt Ill ever have another slot 1 board with this many options for Overclocking. Comes with a Slotket and CPU, I think its a 466 Mendicino which I will change to a nice 600E Coppermine and likely a new Slotket since IIRC MS6905 Ver 1.1 doesn't support Coppermine. (I have a 800 I can try as well thats also 100FSB)

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just corious how much was that board ?

DOS: 166mmx/16mb/Y719/S3virge
DOS/95: PII333/128mb/AWE64/TNT2M64
Win98: P3 900/256mb/SB live/3dfx V3
Win Me: Athlon 1333/256mb/Audigy2/Geforce 2 GTS
Win XP: E8600/4096mb/SB X-fi/HD6850

Reply 54870 of 55583, by Trashbytes

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ciornyi wrote on 2024-10-25, 15:12:
Trashbytes wrote on 2024-10-25, 14:18:
Got this beautiful Slo1 board, a Soyo SY-6BA+ III which should be one hell of an overclocking board if all the reviews are to be […]
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Got this beautiful Slo1 board, a Soyo SY-6BA+ III which should be one hell of an overclocking board if all the reviews are to be believed.

Likely paid too much for it but I doubt Ill ever have another slot 1 board with this many options for Overclocking. Comes with a Slotket and CPU, I think its a 466 Mendicino which I will change to a nice 600E Coppermine and likely a new Slotket since IIRC MS6905 Ver 1.1 doesn't support Coppermine. (I have a 800 I can try as well thats also 100FSB)

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just corious how much was that board ?

$300 AUD which is like ~200 USD.

Was expecting it to go for more as its not a common board.

Reply 54871 of 55583, by PC@LIVE

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Purchased today a batch of two pre Pentium CPUs, it is an AMD 486DX4-100, a very common CPU at the time, it was the economical alternative to the Intel DX4s, the 75 also exists in other frequencies, a strange 90, and the fast from 120 MHz, the subsequent 133, instead changed their name (5X86), in that period the 486DX4 were AMD's flagship CPUs, later they were abandoned, giving way to the K5 and K6, which were very different from the Intel CPUs, although in their own way, they were quite efficient on integers.
The other CPU is an AMD 386DX-33, this one in the early 90s cost relatively little, and had good success, with this CPU the 33 MHz speed was exceeded for the first time, a 40 MHz version was released, a frequency that Intel he never supported, who knows why???

AMD 286-16 287-10 4MB HD 45MB VGA 256KB
AMD 386DX-40 Intel 387 8MB HD 81MB VGA 256KB
Cyrix 486DLC-40 IIT387-40 8MB VGA 512KB
AMD 5X86-133 16MB VGA VLB CL5428 2MB and many others
AMD K62+ 550 SOYO 5EMA+ and many others
AST Pentium Pro 200 MHz L2 256KB

Reply 54872 of 55583, by BitWrangler

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By 1990, Intel was about done developing 386, and had the idea that they could make people buy a "punching downward" 486 at 20 or even 16 Mhz. Because we rarely see those, you can guess how that went. AMD managed to create enough FUD about 486sx25 performance to sell ppl 386-40s instead.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 54873 of 55583, by chrismeyer6

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G-X wrote on 2024-10-25, 10:40:
Neat. Didn't know NZXT had been around since that long. […]
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Antieon wrote on 2024-10-24, 17:32:

2006 called, asked if I wanted a New Old Stock case for $18... couldn't say no.

Neat. Didn't know NZXT had been around since that long.

Nexxen wrote on 2024-10-23, 21:06:

Complete 939 system for 10€
Athlon 64 X2 4800+ and 4 gigs of ram.

Absolute steal. You got the fastest x2 cpu for the platform. What board was it?

NZXT opened in early 2004. They had some nice cases even way back then.

Reply 54874 of 55583, by Thermalwrong

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I got another laptop computer 😀 A Samsung SENS Pro 500 - a pretty nice Pentium laptop that's fairly equivalent to the Toshiba 430CDT, except it's got L2 cache and is completely passively cooled. The passive cooling appears to not be the best idea since the laptop gets REALLY toasty from prolonged use, which would be why it's got flip-down legs at the back to raise it up.
It was faulty but it was a nice fault to fix with just a bad LCD cable connection. It looks like the main NiMH battery leaked long before I got it but it was removed and the PCB for the battery connector is separate from the main PCB so it's still in great condition.

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The BIOS battery was a CR2032 hidden underneath the power board and getting the palm rest off was kinda funny. The laptop is designed in such a way that you have to disassemble and remove the screen before you can get the palm-rest off, yikes. But the BIOS battery is now replaced with a fresh CR2032 spot welded onto the original tabs / cable.
Then the CD-ROM drive didn't work, wouldn't spin but that was resolved simply by opening up the back of the drive and re-seating the ribbon connectors.

Also, I got a slotket that's supposed to be coppermine capable. I was pretty annoyed when I got it because I overpaid and instead of coming with the P3 in the pictures and an Intel heatsink, it came with a cooler master heatsink and a Celeron 633... But then I spotted the original paperwork in the box... It's a 370SPD Rev 1.0 CPU Card and that confirms it's suitable for coppermine. Probably not one that Intel would've approved, probably put some voltages out of spec idk. I wanted it because I got a Pentium III 1GHz SL5QV CPU but don't want to waste my MS6905 slotket on it.

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Oh! AND what I think is a sealed original 3DFX Voodoo II SLI Cable. Looking forward to testing it 😀

BTW, did you guys know that someone in the US on the bay is selling 70x SL5QV Pentium III 1GHz 100FSB CPUs for $20 each? I'm on the wrong continent for it to be worth it to me but it's nice to see such a cool CPU easily available once more.

Reply 54875 of 55583, by Trashbytes

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Yup 20 USD with a 70 USD shipping charge for international ...yeah thats a hard pass.

There is an alternative seller that is selling SL5QJ Intel Pentium III 1Ghz CPUs for $11 USD that dont have the outrageous international shipping costs, they are Coppermine-T CPUs so they do require a 133FSB.

Reply 54876 of 55583, by Wes1262

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Finally! Got myself an x850XT PE
It took so long to find one..... PCIE, not AGP, but happy nevertheless.
Crossing fingers it works....

Reply 54877 of 55583, by Trashbytes

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Wes1262 wrote on 2024-10-26, 10:33:

Finally! Got myself an x850XT PE
It took so long to find one..... PCIE, not AGP, but happy nevertheless.
Crossing fingers it works....

hrmmm has dead in the image file name ...not a good omen 🤣

Reply 54878 of 55583, by Wes1262

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Trashbytes wrote on 2024-10-26, 11:36:
Wes1262 wrote on 2024-10-26, 10:33:

Finally! Got myself an x850XT PE
It took so long to find one..... PCIE, not AGP, but happy nevertheless.
Crossing fingers it works....

hrmmm has dead in the image file name ...not a good omen 🤣

Oh sh...... 🤣

It might be actually damaged. The PCI bracket plate seems very distant from the fan exhaust

Reply 54879 of 55583, by PTherapist

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A recent retro purchase -

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Another one for the collection - a Mattel Electronics Aquarius. It's definitely in the top 3 of my most useless computers, but gotta love those weird 80s 8-bit micros! I've ordered an adapter for the BackBit Pro Cartridge, which will let me load from SD card as well as provide the much needed RAM, sound & Joystick expansion. Until then, I can pretty much only play around in BASIC, as I have no software other than the pictured LOGO cartridge. There's a few wav files from the internet that have games that will run on the built-in RAM, so I may try those.

Some other stuff I bought recently -

A pi1541 + Epyx Fast Load Cartridge for the C64. Got this to cut-down on the amount of cables required, as it's powered straight from the C64. It's not as good as the Pi 3A based pi1541 I already had, but it does add convenience and less messy cables.

Also bought a bunch of 2000s era cheap Chinese produced games consoles, all mostly junk fake motion controlled systems, but very cheap -

Zone Interactive
Zone 100
Zone Family Fit (this one is broken, probably bad capacitors)
Marks & Spencer Virtual TV Table Tennis (aka PowerToys Ping Pong)