I can only provide picture of the card as actually isn't in any of my builds. 😀

So I decided to put GF4 and Audigy 2 ZS as adviced. I guess I can stand with not full DOS compatibility as I own P4 machine with Win98 with another Radeon from 9600 series and V3 3500 and V2 2x12MB SLI so I'm thinking I'll leave my dream build with decent DOS compatibility, or I'll push DOSBox there. 🤣

First 9550

And second

And now I remember I put 9600 in my Pentium 4 build. 😁

andre_6 wrote on 2023-04-25, 16:16:

I'm curious if there is a 1.4Ghz Tualatin compatible board with an ISA slot, I imagine it would be very expensive nowadays.

There are some. But they all have VIA chipset.

Ati Sapphire Radeon 9550
Ati Sapphire Radeon 9600
GeForce 4 4200Ti 128MB

Pretty much equal if overclocked.

But, the thing is, should I overclock?

Disruptor wrote on 2023-04-25, 17:59:

andre_6 wrote on 2023-04-25, 16:16:

I'm curious if there is a 1.4Ghz Tualatin compatible board with an ISA slot, I imagine it would be very expensive nowadays.

There are some. But they all have VIA chipset.

Cool that they even exist, could you point me out to some models so I can check it out anyway?

haker120 wrote on 2023-04-25, 17:16:

First 9550
And second

Very cheap design 🙁
But
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJqdJUzsmAA
https://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overcloc … ing/vidcard/107
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/radeon-9 … 9600xt.1527227/
And tons of topics at early 2000 years.

andre_6 wrote on 2023-04-25, 16:41:

Thanks for the info, interesting, I have a 9600XT with a Zalman cooler (don't remember the brand) that I'm yet to check out, curious to see the performance difference vs. the 9600 Pro

If You get something like 550 GPU& 350 VRAM, you will be pleasantly surprised.
It`s almost Radeon 9700 (~4500 mark at 3Dmark03)

andre_6 wrote on 2023-04-25, 18:10:

Cool that they even exist, could you point me out to some models so I can check it out anyway?

https://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/List_of_ … 70_motherboards

shevalier wrote on 2023-04-25, 18:19:

Very cheap design :-( But https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJqdJUzsmAA https://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overcloc … ing/vidca […]
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haker120 wrote on 2023-04-25, 17:16:

First 9550
And second

Very cheap design 🙁
But
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJqdJUzsmAA
https://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overcloc … ing/vidcard/107
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/radeon-9 … 9600xt.1527227/
And tons of topics at early 2000 years.

andre_6 wrote on 2023-04-25, 16:41:

Thanks for the info, interesting, I have a 9600XT with a Zalman cooler (don't remember the brand) that I'm yet to check out, curious to see the performance difference vs. the 9600 Pro

If You get something like 550 GPU& 350 VRAM, you will be pleasantly surprised.
It`s almost Radeon 9700 (~4500 mark at 3Dmark03)

Will keep that in mind, excellent tips, thank you!

Disruptor wrote on 2023-04-25, 18:59:

andre_6 wrote on 2023-04-25, 18:10:

Cool that they even exist, could you point me out to some models so I can check it out anyway?

https://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/List_of_ … 70_motherboards

They're quite a lot actually, had no idea

haker120 wrote on 2023-04-25, 18:05:

But, the thing is, should I overclock?

If you already have a XP build then there's no reason to in my view. IMO you just need a card that brings you up to 2003ish games with good performance and after that point XP can take over, hence my emphasis on the 9600 Radeon. A point that you should maybe develop is what games you intend to play with this build as opposed to the XP build. If you have sequential periods with your builds you can pretty much stick to it, if not you can compress some in one overpowered PC to make up for it, like Win98SE and XP, or XP and 7, etc.

For example, before I built my Tualatin PC at the time I was lacking true reasons to do so. So I decided to build it on the premise to experience WinME and use it as a bridge between my Win98SE and XP builds, stopping at 2003 or around that. Two years later now I can say that I just won't play Max Payne 1 and 2, Mafia, GTA III and Vice City, etc. on any other build, it just feels different and very from its time, and WinME helps a lot with that. There's a particular optimism that oozes from it and it just feels smoother than Win98SE ever did, even though the latter will always be "home" for me.

As someone that tries to put to use the most hardware possible that I have I appreciate the fact that you're playing around with possibilities with what you have lying around, which is good stuff in any case

Yeah, I don't really see the point of spending more money since I already have the good, the bad, the weird and even unique spare cards. 😁

Also, can anyone tell me why PCI and AGP versions of GF FX5500 are bad cards? I tested in XP and if not I have C2Q machine for this and 1GB GPU, these FXes work surprisingly good for me.

As far as I know, compared to the GeForce 4 Ti4200 the FX cards either lack of performance or are very loud.

I bought two, new chinese OEM PCI and new boxed AGP and both lack active cooling. Everyone here seems to know about infamous PCI one from aliexpress and I'm showing boxed one. 😀

Disruptor wrote on 2023-04-26, 15:24:

As far as I know, compared to the GeForce 4 Ti4200 the FX cards either lack of performance or are very loud.

Actually, FX5900 are not that bad, much better than 5800 which is total crap. My Gainward FX5900XT is quite cool even with small cooler and not so loud. Noticeably faster than Geforce4 and DOS compatibility is top notch.