Has anyone tried the BIOS patcher on the ASUS P5A motherboard? If so, any benefits?

I recently bought this board a Epox MVP3G5 with 2Mb L2 so when it arrives Ill be testing it out with both a K62 550 @ 600 and a K63+ 570 @ 600, so I may step into this thread with some results and benchmarks of how the board performs, I have a spare Ti500 that I will be using along with a Voodoo5.

Been a long while since I last overclocked on a Super 7 so I doubt I will hit some of the amazing scores here but this board should post some terrific scores without any crazy tweaking.

Skalabala wrote on 2024-02-06, 04:39:

NostalgicAslinger wrote on 2024-02-05, 17:58:

Also a thread with "AMD K5 3DMark, aiming for stars." in the future?

I like it 😀

Now all we need is for some lucky person to walk in with a K5 PR200.

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-03-29, 09:00:

Now all we need is for some lucky person to walk in with a K5 PR200.

My K5 PR166 runs completely stable (Prime 95 and DOS/Windows Games) with 133MHz (PR200), also with only 3.3V, instead of the stock 3.5V.

I have a 166 I may play with but my fast ss7 setup is being a pain in the butt right now. Not surewhy but 3d won’t work on it

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-03-29, 08:58:

I recently bought this board a Epox MVP3G5 with 2Mb L2 so when it arrives Ill be testing it out with both a K62 550 @ 600 and a K63+ 570 @ 600, so I may step into this thread with some results and benchmarks of how the board performs, I have a spare Ti500 that I will be using along with a Voodoo5.

Epox EP-MVP3G5.jpg

Been a long while since I last overclocked on a Super 7 so I doubt I will hit some of the amazing scores here but this board should post some terrific scores without any crazy tweaking.

Just go for 112*5.5 The CPU should be stable not sure if the motherboard will.
I am hoping you can get into club 5000 with that board! 😀

Skalabala wrote on 2024-03-30, 02:52:

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-03-29, 08:58:

I recently bought this board a Epox MVP3G5 with 2Mb L2 so when it arrives Ill be testing it out with both a K62 550 @ 600 and a K63+ 570 @ 600, so I may step into this thread with some results and benchmarks of how the board performs, I have a spare Ti500 that I will be using along with a Voodoo5.

Epox EP-MVP3G5.jpg

Been a long while since I last overclocked on a Super 7 so I doubt I will hit some of the amazing scores here but this board should post some terrific scores without any crazy tweaking.

Just go for 112*5.5 The CPU should be stable not sure if the motherboard will.
I am hoping you can get into club 5000 with that board! 😀

I'm curious to see if the K63 or K62 will pull ahead, the chips can be a bit funny with some L2 cache, I've also read that this board performs best when limited so 384Mb of ram using single rank SD-133 sticks and can pull some crazy cache speeds with that config. Its no slouch with 768Mb either but no crazy cache speed shenanigans.

Board is reported to be exceptionally stable at a range of bus speeds and was built for overclocking so the bios has a silly amount of settings including a clamp for AGP bus speeds to lock it to 66Mhz if needed.

The more I read about the board the more excited I am to get my hands on it.

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-03-30, 03:05:

I'm curious to see if the K63 or K62 will pull ahead, the chips can be a bit funny with some L2 cache, I've also read that this […]
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Skalabala wrote on 2024-03-30, 02:52:

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-03-29, 08:58:

I recently bought this board a Epox MVP3G5 with 2Mb L2 so when it arrives Ill be testing it out with both a K62 550 @ 600 and a K63+ 570 @ 600, so I may step into this thread with some results and benchmarks of how the board performs, I have a spare Ti500 that I will be using along with a Voodoo5.

Epox EP-MVP3G5.jpg

Been a long while since I last overclocked on a Super 7 so I doubt I will hit some of the amazing scores here but this board should post some terrific scores without any crazy tweaking.

Just go for 112*5.5 The CPU should be stable not sure if the motherboard will.
I am hoping you can get into club 5000 with that board! 😀

I'm curious to see if the K63 or K62 will pull ahead, the chips can be a bit funny with some L2 cache, I've also read that this board performs best when limited so 384Mb of ram using single rank SD-133 sticks and can pull some crazy cache speeds with that config. Its no slouch with 768Mb either but no crazy cache speed shenanigans.

Board is reported to be exceptionally stable at a range of bus speeds and was built for overclocking so the bios has a silly amount of settings including a clamp for AGP bus speeds to lock it to 66Mhz if needed.

The more I read about the board the more excited I am to get my hands on it.

Yes, I can confirm that mvp3 seems to really like single sided 128mb sticks. Though with a performance hit you can sometimes push that to dual sided. (Will be slower)

Unfortunately the mvp3g5 does disable the onboard cache when running FSBs above 100.
There is no way around it even with softfsb or CPU cool. But I managed to run my CPU at 4x133 with onboard cache disabled. Performance wasn't as good as with the ALI Chipsets

frankmonk wrote on 2024-03-30, 09:04:

Unfortunately the mvp3g5 does disable the onboard cache when running FSBs above 100.
There is no way around it even with softfsb or CPU cool. But I managed to run my CPU at 4x133 with onboard cache disabled. Performance wasn't as good as with the ALI Chipsets

hmm which means the K6-3+ should pull ahead above 100 FSB due to its on die L2 cache.

I also wonder if its the BIOS disabling the cache or the chipset, if its the bios then possibly there is a modded bios or a way to mod it, I would think with 4ns chips that the cache would handle FSB above 100 quite well.

I know there is something weird with those boards and overclocking with cache on. They wont even run at 105MHz.
My MVP3GM has two 512kb 4ns chips and it can run 112MHz stable and not 124Mhz
You might need to modify the motherboard
Don't be discouraged, make it work and teach us 😀
Socket 7 has came a looong way since I have started this thread 😀 And there are still things to figure out!

Necrodude wrote on 2024-03-29, 08:06:

Has anyone tried the BIOS patcher on the ASUS P5A motherboard? If so, any benefits?

I have not, I do not see any benefits though. If I want to mess with BIOS I use TWK153

Have not been in this thread for a long while, did anyone beat the scores of Asus P5A boards?

They are still my favorite boards and years ago i had many ss7 boards of different brands and Asus boards were faster. Mvp3 didn't come close and while gigabyte (ali V) did clock higher they didn't score better.

Never recapped and still running great i kept the Asus boards and the gigabyte's. Maybe still have 1 mvp3, the rest is sold. One day i will find the time and patience again to try and beat the score.

I was so close years ago, and yet so very far away! 😀

meljor wrote on 2024-03-31, 09:52:

Have not been in this thread for a long while, did anyone beat the scores of Asus P5A boards? […]
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Have not been in this thread for a long while, did anyone beat the scores of Asus P5A boards?

They are still my favorite boards and years ago i had many ss7 boards of different brands and Asus boards were faster. Mvp3 didn't come close and while gigabyte (ali V) did clock higher they didn't score better.

Never recapped and still running great i kept the Asus boards and the gigabyte's. Maybe still have 1 mvp3, the rest is sold. One day i will find the time and patience again to try and beat the score.

I was so close years ago, and yet so very far away! 😀

Welcome back! No one close to my score yet 🙁 I am hoping for someone to beat it so that we can learn more about SS7! 😁

Skalabala wrote on 2024-04-02, 00:05:

meljor wrote on 2024-03-31, 09:52:

Have not been in this thread for a long while, did anyone beat the scores of Asus P5A boards? […]
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Have not been in this thread for a long while, did anyone beat the scores of Asus P5A boards?

They are still my favorite boards and years ago i had many ss7 boards of different brands and Asus boards were faster. Mvp3 didn't come close and while gigabyte (ali V) did clock higher they didn't score better.

Never recapped and still running great i kept the Asus boards and the gigabyte's. Maybe still have 1 mvp3, the rest is sold. One day i will find the time and patience again to try and beat the score.

I was so close years ago, and yet so very far away! 😀

Welcome back! No one close to my score yet 🙁 I am hoping for someone to beat it so that we can learn more about SS7! 😁

Can you write a guide for that setup?

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I cant remember 🤣 but there is some info on my youtube video of the run.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwG7RtFFXgo

Just had my FIC PA-2013 fully recapped. I luckily have the revision without the weak agp power controller chip that burns out.

Will do some benching in the next few weeks once I found a case for it and… time.

SWZSSR wrote on 2024-05-12, 01:20:

Just had my FIC PA-2013 fully recapped. I luckily have the revision without the weak agp power controller chip that burns out.

Will do some benching in the next few weeks once I found a case for it and… time.

Is that a 2Mb board?

Figure I join the fun...

I have a couple boards at my disposal.

GA-5AX 5.2 (Chipset "E")
P5A 1.06 modded 1kohm (Chipset "G")

Both 512k Cache.

That is a good CPU score for 633MHz