They'll get distorted, but you won't usually notice unless you try hard... And maybe not even then.

I'd give it a good old udial.wav, but that may only reveal clipping. Is there another test signal floating around designed for audio resampling?

Why not listen to some music with and without software resampling and see if you can hear anything. I was never able to.

Audigy has the same problem. Again without something like udial, I couldn't hear anything.

any of you guys know about the hacked E-MU APS Drivers for SB LIve!?

im collecting info here :
http://www.oldschooldaw.com/forums/index.php? … msg3263#msg3263
but i seem to have found teh downloadable files to hack/patch the drivers on a japanese site (linked on page)

I have one of the original cards and mine has the gold plated ports, yet mine is a ct4620 which I thought didn't have the gold

I have the SBLive SB0100 installed in my Asrock 775i65G mobo using VxD drivers. I had to disable the SB16 emulation from installing, in order to prevent a BSOD.

Seems like various members have had different versions of this card (myself included) but is there any unanimous agreement as to which cards are "pretty good" as opposed to "pretty bad" ? From the link posted earlier with all the model codes I would be inclined to think the 0060 and 0100 models are ok but that's just based on what those cards are titled. As we all know, there's no correlation between how fancy the name sounds and how well the card works. The video I watched on Phil's Computer Lab showcased the 0100 and he seemed to think that one was ok. Are there any better models? Since he had a 0060 for reference, why didn't he use that one if it's part of the Platinum series?

I have a CT4620 with CT4660 daughter board but I cannot find the drivers for Windows 98SE. It's the gold plated version of 1998. Which .iso should I download for installing?

JSO wrote:

I have a CT4620 with CT4660 daughter board but I cannot find the drivers for Windows 98SE. It's the gold plated version of 1998. Which .iso should I download for installing?

For the sake of closure, I should probably state that I ended up purchasing the CT4760.
For Windows 98SE, I used the Live!ware v3.0 drivers at vogonsdrivers: http://vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=780

Ensure you've uninstalled all other audio device drivers AND utilities.
Once installed, I had no audio from my Live! because the mixer utility from my onboard audio was still installed. This caused no audio output at all. Once uninstalled, the Live! worked fine.

Occasionally, I do see the odd VXD error /BSOD on this system and the only ever happens when the Live! is installed. Ah, like the good 'ol times! 😉

The "sound blaster live SB0200" is commonly found on eBay for little money.
Creative labs website had the DELL drivers for this sound card.

The SB0200 is a cut down, feature stripped version. The SB0220 is better as it has EAX support.

JSO wrote:

I have a CT4620 with CT4660 daughter board but I cannot find the drivers for Windows 98SE. It's the gold plated version of 1998. Which .iso should I download for installing?

Same exact problem here. I tried LiveWare, LiveWare 2.0, LiveWare 3.0 and current downloads from creative.com. Spend a whole day now troubleshooting this card but nothing. And it doesn't help if you don't know exactly what driver version is the best for Win98SE. So you are troubleshooting and switching driver versions which makes matters only worse...

I gave up for the time beeing on the CT4620 (i have two of them) and also a CT4760 that i bought afterwards. No chance to get them working on a plain fresh Windows 98SE install. Its a mystery to me. Never had a problem with the CT4760 back in the day...

I then proceeded to get a SB0100 because that should be the newest version of the Live! and we have the newest drivers here on Vogonsdrivers so that would be a good match.
http://vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=805

Phil from Philscomputerlab also used the above combination (SB0100 + VxD driver 4.12.01.0905) in his Live! review video.

Worked great without any issues on the same Windows 98SE and Mainboard + PSU that gave me nothing but trouble before with the earlier cards.

I have the CT4870 in my 20 year old PC I'm rebuilding at the moment. It didn't install using the default Live! drivers from Creative, but with a touch of encouragement (force the driver install in device manager) it works fine.

I am using the Sound Blaster live!, 5.1 SB0100 with Live drive and an Toslink SP/DIF adapter connector.
Connect the SP/DIF adapter to the Live drive digital I/O port using pins ( 1, 18, 19 ).
On the SP/DIF adapter RED wire is 5v, Black wire is ground, Brown wire is Signal.
I used Raspberry Pi wires as extension wires. It was easy. No soldering or crimping wires required.
This way you can have the Live drive work and the Toslink SP/DIF adapter on the back plate slot.

If you don't have a Live drive and just want an SP/DIF toslink adapter on your back plate slot then
You can use these same pin number connections on the Sound Blaster Live card.

You can connect the SP/DIF Toslink port to your A/V surround sound receiver for 5.1 surround sound
using Dolby Pro logic or maybe even in true Dolby Digital.

Everything works great now.
Running Win98se.
I used this install CDROM.
http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?file … 805&menustate=0

Gahhhrrrlic wrote:

The video I watched on Phil's Computer Lab showcased the 0100 and he seemed to think that one was ok. Are there any better models? Since he had a 0060 for reference, why didn't he use that one if it's part of the Platinum series?

Please don't search logic in each step of Phil's actions. He took an SB0100 for his tests because it's just latest model (except "Dell" 0220). He could choose any other model with proper driver and nothing would change in practise. There aren't "best" and "worst" Lives, they all have a same DSP with a same features. CTXXXX are all 4.0 (centre and LFE are blocked in EEPROM), SBXXXX are all 5.1.

Phil knows about Live! no more and no less than you.

Ok ,so it's my turn.
As often happens, inspirated from the Phil's works and videos, I decided to put a Sound Blaster Live! SB0100 in my retro system, to play games on Windows 98SE and in the DOS mode, expecially cause he found it largely compatible with lot of games.
I downloaded the drivers that he suggest, on Windows 98SE I cannot install VXE drivers cause after the installation and I have to reboot Windows 98SE want to put from the Windows CD the WDM drivers over it. I don't know why.
And I have another trouble: when I start the DOS command "liveinit" to initialize my sound card, it returns me the error: could not configure the PCI port.

Someone have idea how to resolve these problems? I just want to make it work correctly and enjoy some old games as they have to be enjoyed.

Thanks a lot.

Loris

biessea wrote on 2020-10-20, 16:20:

And I have another trouble: when I start the DOS command "liveinit" to initialize my sound card, it returns me the error: could not configure the PCI port.

You will have to be more specific about what retro system you are referring to. It is well-established at this point that the PCI Sound Blaster drivers require specific motherboard features that started disappearing around when the Pentium 4 was introduced. Fortunately many games will still work just fine from an MS-DOS prompt while Win9x is running.

biessea wrote on 2020-10-20, 16:20:

I just want to make it work correctly and enjoy some old games as they have to be enjoyed.

The DOS MIDI support for the SB Live cards is highly questionable. This has also been covered in other threads.

biessea wrote on 2020-10-20, 16:20:

I just want to make it work correctly and enjoy some old games as they have to be enjoyed.

Try my guide.

Using that approach, you get support for loading soundfonts which can be used for General MIDI music in DOS games as long as they run under the Win9x MS-DOS prompt.

Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2020-10-20, 17:10:

biessea wrote on 2020-10-20, 16:20:

I just want to make it work correctly and enjoy some old games as they have to be enjoyed.

Try my guide.

Using that approach, you get support for loading soundfonts which can be used for General MIDI music in DOS games as long as they run under the Win9x MS-DOS prompt.

Jorpho wrote on 2020-10-20, 16:51:

You will have to be more specific about what retro system you are referring to. It is well-established at this point that the PC […]
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biessea wrote on 2020-10-20, 16:20:

And I have another trouble: when I start the DOS command "liveinit" to initialize my sound card, it returns me the error: could not configure the PCI port.

You will have to be more specific about what retro system you are referring to. It is well-established at this point that the PCI Sound Blaster drivers require specific motherboard features that started disappearing around when the Pentium 4 was introduced. Fortunately many games will still work just fine from an MS-DOS prompt while Win9x is running.

biessea wrote on 2020-10-20, 16:20:

I just want to make it work correctly and enjoy some old games as they have to be enjoyed.

The DOS MIDI support for the SB Live cards is highly questionable. This has also been covered in other threads.

Thanks a lot, I am more specific for this retro-gaming system:

Pentium 3 Coppermine 1.0Ghz
Asus CUV266 Socket 370
512MB RAM PC2100
Sound Blaster Live! SB0100
ATi Radeon 9800PRO 128MB

Thanks a lot.

I will follow the guide of Joseph, for sure. I will let you know.

Thanks another time to help me.